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Caution on wiring harness!!!
In good company here, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure my car ('92 300SE) doesn't have a harness problem with the main underhood wiring, as I've been fixing a lot of stuff lately that would have revealed issues with it.
However, after recently pulling the transmission to replace a leaking rear main seal, I discovered my oil-pressure gauge had stopped working. Figured I had accidentally disconnected the sensor wire, since it's on the back-side of the motor. Checked - plug attached. Removed and replugged same - gauge works again. Hmmmm - maybe sensor going out? Drive 5 minutes - no pressure on gauge again. Had someone wiggle connections while I watched gauge. No effect when wiggling connector. Gauge would jump when wire was wiggled. Pulled insulation sheath back on wire leading to pressure sensor - wires inside sheath no longer had ANY insulation on them. These wires go into a larger harness on the back of the motor that carries the 12+ cable to the starter. EEEK - if the insulation on that wire goes south, we're talking about a total electrical system melt-down and more likely a fire. It's been cold here in Houston lately, but I don't need a torched MB to provide warmth, thank you very much. I got a new sub-harness from MB for $185+tax (wholesale). Installation time - about 1.5 hours, DIMS (did it my self) What I think (hope) happened with this harness is this: The harness runs directly beneath the oil filter housing. When you R&R the filter element, unless you're very careful, oil drips down on the harness. The inside of all the sheaths (the outer covering that holds the wires together, not the insulation on the wires themselves) that I cut open were VERY oily. 14+ years of exposure to motor oil and the hot underhood temps caused embrittlement of the wire insulation leading to the failure of same as I moved the harness around while installing the transmission. I know oil has a bad effect on rubber hoses - the upper crankcase ventilation hose I just replaced was hard as a rock while it's replacement was nice and soft. Anyway - this is probably only an issue on the 6cyl versions of the 140 chassis, and possibly the diesels. Likely the harness is routed differently on the 8cyl models. I think the insulation on the main 12v+ cable insulation is a different type than the sensor wires - at least it seemed to be - but if it were to fail in the same manner as the rest of the wires in that sheath, really bad things might happen. At minimum, you might find 12v+ coming in on a circuit that is looking for ground (the oil level sensor, or the pressure gauge), which could blow fuses or cook your instrument panel. The up-side of this is that I now have a new harness. The item purchased provides the following circuits: 12v+ to starter Signal to starter solenoid Wires to oil pressure sensor Wire to oil level sensor in pan 12v+ from alternator Signal (trigger?) wire to alternator |
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Thanks for the 'heads up'
I have an '86 300E, similar engine and oil sender location. I need to replace the oil pressure sender and I'll have a look at the harness while doint that job. Thanks.
P.S. There are many '80s Volvo 240s with wiring harness problems. I've repaired this on many of those. The worst spot is just under the front of the engine where the harness often gets oil soaked when the front seals leak. Same result on the wiring insulation.
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1986 300E 1993 Volvo 940 Wagon 1984 Volvo 240 (daughter's) 1976 Dodge 1/2T pickup, gas hog |
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I recommend you check another part of the wiring harness under the hood to make sure you've contained the problem. Some have reported that this known problem exists on a few 92 models, not just the 93-95 models.
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While fixing my fuel leak on Thurs, my harness has deteriorated to the end too. Mine's getting a new harness today (in Houston, too, coincidentally).
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- Brian 1989 500SEL Euro 1966 250SE Cabriolet 1958 BMW Isetta 600 |
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ok 1989 300e, should i look
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I think you're refering to the Battery [aka"B"] Harness. But, as wbrian63 said "sub-harness from MB for $185+tax (wholesale)" maybe I'm not thinking of the same harness.
Photos 2 & 3 at end of thread are of cable through gromet at oil filter and connector [to its right when facing engine]. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=167567 Most likely the battery cable is ok. A few dollars for wire and a little soldering and you can DIY as I did. But you have to do some connections from under car. Connector [photo 3] uses pin connections to wire. De-solder and reuse them. Oil level = Brown/Black [left side, front, bottom of block] Oil Pressure = Brown/Green [left side, below oil filter] Solenoid = Purple/White [on starter] Bob PS Good to disconnect battery ground before DIY. |
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