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Mr. William 01-08-2007 12:47 PM

Need help car will not start !
 
Here is the situation. I have a 1990 Mercedes 500SL and is is currently not starting.

I had driven the car with no problems all last year and parked the car for the winter, but forgot to disconnect the battery and the battery drained completely.

Installed new battery and it will not fire, no cranking whatsoever. The battery is fine, as well as all the fuses.

Any suggestions ?

riethoven 01-08-2007 12:51 PM

Corroded ground strap? Have you done an amperage draw test on the 2nd battery? Maybe it too is discharged. I have seen it before.

Mr. William 01-08-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riethoven (Post 1381074)
Corroded ground strap? Have you done an amperage draw test on the 2nd battery? Maybe it too is discharged. I have seen it before.

Installed new battery and tested, it is fine. All in grounded properly as well.

I also checked the overload protection relay fuse and that is not blown. Any other suggestions ?

MattBelliveau 01-08-2007 01:01 PM

Tempting the obvious : Have you tested the starter? Do you have power otherwise (ie windows, radio and stuff works?)?

Mr. William 01-08-2007 01:05 PM

I have not tested the starter no, but i cannot see this being the problem as it was perfectly fine prior.

I have all other functions that the battery should produce yes ( lights, horn, etc. )

Arthur Dalton 01-08-2007 01:16 PM

<<and it will not fire, no cranking whatsoever>>

Either or both ?????


Try "N" position on shifter...............

Mr. William 01-08-2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton (Post 1381101)
<<and it will not fire, no cranking whatsoever>>

Either or both ?????


Try "N" position on shifter...............

No cranking at all and no sign of it even trying to fire. I tried starting it in N and still nothing.

maybe the ignition switch ?

Arthur Dalton 01-08-2007 01:25 PM

<No cranking at all and no sign of it even trying to fire.>>

Well , if it does not crank, then it certainly can't attemp to fire ...that is what was confusing about your complaint.
Your complaint is the car does not crank, meaning the starter circuit does not engage.
Do the dash lights indicator lights come on when you turn the key to RUN position?

Mr. William 01-08-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton (Post 1381112)
<No cranking at all and no sign of it even trying to fire.>>

Well , if it does not crank, then it certainly can't attemp to fire ...that is what was confusing about your complaint.
Your complaint is the car does not crank, meaning the starter circuit does not engage.
Do the dash lights indicator lights come on when you turn the key to RUN position?

Yes, all of the indicator lights come on in the run position

riethoven 01-08-2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. William (Post 1381103)
No cranking at all and no sign of it even trying to fire. I tried starting it in N and still nothing.

maybe the ignition switch ?

On the W123 diesels there are easily accessable terminal block that can be jumped across so the motor can be turned over from the engine compartment while adjusting the valves. Maybe the W107 has the same feature? This would allow you to bypass the ignition switch.

Arthur Dalton 01-08-2007 01:39 PM

Do this bat cable/terminal test:

Turn on headlamps.
Turn key to Start position while you or someone watches headlamps.
Do they stay lit when key is in stat position??????????????/

Mr. William 01-08-2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton (Post 1381129)
Do this bat cable/terminal test:

Turn on headlamps.
Turn key to Start position while you or someone watches headlamps.
Do they stay lit when key is in stat position??????????????/

I'll try that later this afternoon whne I am at the car. What will this tell me ?

riethoven 01-08-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. William (Post 1381130)
I'll try that later this afternoon whne I am at the car. What will this tell me ?

If the starter solenoid is getting power it will draw amperage and cause the lights to dim significantly. If they dim, then the starter or solenoid is bad, or frozen.

Arthur Dalton 01-08-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. William (Post 1381130)
I'll try that later this afternoon whne I am at the car. What will this tell me ?

It tells you if the cables or bat teminals have a poor connection under LOAD
[ caused by starter motor draw/load] ..it is just a quick tech trick before we go into wiring circuits.
Just for info, You have a 129 chassis

riethoven 01-08-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton (Post 1381139)
It tells you if the cables or bat teminals have a poor connection under LOAD
[ caused by starter motor draw/load] ..it is just a quick tech trick before we go into wiring circuits.
Just for info, You have a 129 chassis

Sorry for stepping on your post Arthur. Won't it also tell you if the starter or solenoid are bad?


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