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zcc 01-27-2007 03:16 AM

560SEL 1989 won't start
 
Dear all,
recently I changed the black E.H.A. Valve that is mounted on the fuel distributor (Bosch# 3.437.010.040) with a brand new original one. After that the car run smoothly with no problems at all and no black smoke. I noticed that when the car is a bit cold it won't start. I was too afraid of the EZL unit but thanks god it was fine. The car will run only if I disconnected the black E.H.A. Bosch Valve wires. I did all what I thing it's possible cause including changing the ABS/ASR computer.

What shall I do? Thank you in advanced : ))..

The part is here: http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/wizard.jsp?partner=mercedesshop&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&cookieid=1VE10RDJ21VH18GGU2&year=1989&make=MB&model=560-SEL-001&category=C&part=E.H.A.+Valve

zcc 01-31-2007 02:53 AM

up...

david s poole 01-31-2007 01:24 PM

why did you change the eha?

Mike Freeman 01-31-2007 07:58 PM

Won't Start
 
Did the wires come out of the plastic connector when you were working on the EHA? Perhaps the wires are reversed thus leaning the mixture when cold.
After the EHA replacement did you reset the mixture? Maybe it's too lean.
Do you have the equipment to check Lambda?
Mike

zcc 02-01-2007 10:34 AM

Mr. david s poole,
I changed it because the old one is causing a black smoke and was too old, in addition, many technicals recommended me to change it.

Mr. Mike Freeman,
No, the wires are still in the plastic connector as its original shape.

I changed the passenger side computer but that didn't solve the problem. It's Euro car.

david s poole 02-01-2007 12:05 PM

there are two diff ones that look exactly the same except for the number on the top.one ends in 007 the other in 003.which one do you have?

zcc 02-01-2007 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david s poole (Post 1406731)
there are two diff ones that look exactly the same except for the number on the top.one ends in 007 the other in 003.which one do you have?

I'll check it and see, which one it must be?

zcc 02-02-2007 11:28 AM

Mr. david s poole,
I checked the top number and it was ending with 009. I'm sure it's 009 NOT 006.

zcc 02-04-2007 10:05 AM

What shall I do next?

zcc 02-04-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bribenz (Post 1409467)
did you try to start it with the old eha attatched again ?

It will start normally but with black smoke.

just-n-time 02-04-2007 01:44 PM

Have you checked the Ma reading at the EHA? look up some of my entries on the EHA. I have just completed doing one on a 420sel, though Dave will know a hole lot more than I about your car,my notes may be of some help to you.JNT

zcc 02-05-2007 09:49 AM

Thanks to all of you :)
Problem solved by disconnecting O2 sensor connectors. Now my last question is that what will happen if I did not got a new O2 sensor and left it disconnected for ever?

zcc 02-05-2007 03:52 PM

No!!!
 
No!!! The problem hasn't been solved :mad: I thought so but it didn't. Please tell me what to do. Could it be the cold starting valve?

Mike Freeman 02-05-2007 05:18 PM

Won't start
 
Respectfully; You can't just change parts and expect the fuel management system to be dialed in ! After replacing the EHA you will have to adjust the mixture to achieve proper fuel / air ratio. Mike

zcc 02-06-2007 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Freeman (Post 1410745)
Respectfully; You can't just change parts and expect the fuel management system to be dialed in ! After replacing the EHA you will have to adjust the mixture to achieve proper fuel / air ratio. Mike

Of course I did adjust the mixture.


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