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t walgamuth 04-09-2007 05:59 PM

i have noticed on the newer trannys they have software that lets off the gas, shifts the gear and reapplys the gas just like i would with a stick. (as described above, too.)

the old way was to just shift and the clutches had to slip a bit. the new way there is less wear and tear (theoretically) on everything and i bet they discovered they could fit a lot smaller gears and clutches....so therefore with all that extra room and weight to burn they just decided to add more gears.

more gears means better acceleration and better economy....best of both worlds as long as it doesn't increase weight or wear and tear.

my $.02.

i never read all this anywhere but just thought about it.

tom w

onesixthree 04-09-2007 07:09 PM

I'm not sure if real life situation reflects this. Shifting takes time, especially on an auto box. I think having too many gears and tranny constantly being confused, as to which gear to engage would actually hurt the accel? Why not 'ride' out the power band, instead of having more gears that waste time shifting.. Repair or rebuild would be a pain in the neck as well.
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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 1475204)
more gears means better acceleration and better economy....best of both worlds as long as it doesn't increase weight or wear and tear.


jgl1 04-10-2007 12:41 AM

FWIW, we did not utilize a lemon law to return the vehicle.

As a long-term customer, the dealer was kind enough to accept the vehicle back as a no-cost trade for another E320. Supposedly MBUSA made a contribution to the dealer to help defray costs. The vehicle was returned December 23 and a new E320 ordered. Took delivery of it last week. The dealer installed a new transmission in the first car and finally sold it on their used car lot about two weeks ago. The salesman stated that they had several buyers interested in the car but all had knowledge of the 722.9's problematic hx and declined to purchase once they found the transmission had already been renewed.

mrhills0146 04-10-2007 07:05 AM

Nice to know that there are good dealers out there. Now that is the way to handle the situation properly and nearly ensure repeat business.

What is the name/location of the dealership?

Hirnbeiss 04-10-2007 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 1475204)

the old way was to just shift and the clutches had to slip a bit. the new way there is less wear and tear (theoretically) on everything and i bet they discovered they could fit a lot smaller gears and clutches....so therefore with all that extra room and weight to burn they just decided to add more gears.

tom w

Good thinking, but I don't think that's the case here. From what I've read, they used basically the same nuber of gears as the 5 speed, but are able to combine them in different ways to provide 7 different ratios. ILUVMILS is porbably more knowledgeable on the subject, but I think it's the fact that the electronic controls gave them much more freedom than the old mechanical designs that would have needed more bands to achieve the same thing.

jgl1 04-10-2007 03:57 PM

Mercedes-Benz of Tampa

Tampa, FL

NBMBMASTERTECH 04-11-2007 12:36 AM

We Have Been Seeing Alot Of Transmission Issues....currently There Is An Issue Of Coding Within Trans Control Unit. This Can Be Resolve By Updating Software To The Transmission Control Unit. The 722.9 Earlier Trans Had Issue With The B1 & K1 Clutch Pack Circlips Popping Off, But I Havent Seen This In A While. I Have Seen One Case Of Bad Oil Straight From The Factory. Mainly 2-1 Downshift Or 2-3 3-2 Shift Is The Concerns. Updated Valve Body Fixes This As Well. Dealership & Mb Determines What Measures Of Repairs To Take.


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