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starter not engaging on a 560 sec
When i tried to start my car this morning on the first attempt it did not crank but when i tried again it started with no problem, after getting to work and trying to restart it it just sounds like a blender in the start position and will not turn the engine. I dont think the starter solinoid is engaging, is there an easy wasy to test/bypass it?
any suggestions are appreciated. |
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It sounds like the solenoid is not engaging or 'bendix; drive is stuck. You'll have to remove it and either replace it or overhaul it.
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Regards Warren Currently 1965 220Sb, 2002 FORD Crown Vic Police Interceptor Had 1965 220SEb, 1967 230S, 280SE 4.5, 300SE (W126), 420SEL ENTER > = (HP RPN) Not part of the in-crowd since 1952. |
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you need an exchange starter.
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David S Poole European Performance Dallas, TX 4696880422 "Fortune favors the prepared mind" 1987 Mercedes Benz 420SEL 1988 Mercedes Benz 300TE (With new evaporator) 2000 Mercedes Benz C280 http://www.w108.org/gallery/albums/A...1159.thumb.jpg |
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I spent the entire day today trying to remove the starter, i got the bottom bolt no problem. but the top one is nearly impossible to get to anywhere near it. is there any tricks for the SEC that may work? i just got done reading a long topic about the notorius top bolt, but nothing specific to the SEC
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You're going to need a 10mm allen socket on a 3/8" swivel joint and a 2ft extension to be able to easily get at it from under the car.
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350 |
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and then the fun begins------putting it back! if ever there was a job that simply screamed for a rack this is it.worth at least 10 four letter words.
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David S Poole European Performance Dallas, TX 4696880422 "Fortune favors the prepared mind" 1987 Mercedes Benz 420SEL 1988 Mercedes Benz 300TE (With new evaporator) 2000 Mercedes Benz C280 http://www.w108.org/gallery/albums/A...1159.thumb.jpg |
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ha! you're not kidding. I'll never forget doing this on my 380SEL 6 or 7 years ago in the middle of january in the driveway. It was below freezing out and I got rust in my eye and hated every minute of it. To make things worse, in my haste I had reconnected the remote wire to the wrong teminal on the solenoid (this one had 2) and the sucker wouldnt engage when I was done! I ended up taking the whole thing back out thinking my new starter was junk before I realized my mistake.
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350 |
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now wasn't that fun!you wouldn't have missed it for the world.
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David S Poole European Performance Dallas, TX 4696880422 "Fortune favors the prepared mind" 1987 Mercedes Benz 420SEL 1988 Mercedes Benz 300TE (With new evaporator) 2000 Mercedes Benz C280 http://www.w108.org/gallery/albums/A...1159.thumb.jpg |
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I got it! I guess it wasnt that tight, it came loose after a few grunts using the following setup: 10mm hex key to 3/8" drive, 3/8"to 1/2" drive, 3" extension, universal joint, 10"extention, ratchet handle. the rachet handle ended up right between the cat and tranny. the biggest problem i had after that was disconnecting the positive terminal, which i ended up cutting. turned out the bendix seized somewhere in the middle on the shaft it slides down. bought a rebuild at autozone for 90$ and im good to go.
Thanks for all the help! Josh |
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