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jylee 04-01-2007 07:28 PM

92 300CE won't start
 
I have to tow it home last week. This morning, I checked fuel pump (it work)and swap out the coil. It still would not start. Any suggestions.

Jack

Ferdman 04-02-2007 03:21 AM

Jack, if the no start situation happened suddenly without warning it very well could be that the ignition control module (mounted on the driver' side inner fender) has failed. A new one is $2,500 or so from a MB dealer ... and they need to look up the ICM for a 1992 300SL because one for a 300CE won't show in their parts system. If you know someone who owns a 1991 or 1992 300CE try swapping the ICM from their car to confirm that yours is bad. I went through this same situation with our 1991 300CE in the past year. No used ICM's are available and they cannot be rebuilt ... new was the only option. So confirm that the existing one is bad before going that route.

jylee 04-02-2007 11:02 AM

Thanks for your reply.

I already called for part this morning, the part is very expensive.

Jack

RBYCC 04-03-2007 05:03 PM

Did you check the fuse and the OVP relay mounted behind the battery?
This is a typical problem in the W124 which prevents starting.

mbfanatic 04-03-2007 08:50 PM

there are several causes why cars won't start. no ignition spark, enough petrol, flat battery, dirty connections, no fuel pressures. try to look on these things. It might be because of a bad ignition module, faulty alarm,courtesy light switches, bad speed sensors, bad coil or rotor arm.

A264172 04-04-2007 08:29 AM

When you say 'wont start' do you mean the car does nothing or does it crank but not catch?

The more info the better.

jylee 04-04-2007 09:18 PM

It crank
 
Thanks for all the reply...I did buy a relay last week, the plug has two extra connections. After I verified with parts on Monday that it is a newer design. I will try it this weekend.

Jack

jylee 04-07-2007 10:24 AM

I measured the crank position senor, it was 825 ohm. Is this correct??

Jack

jylee 04-09-2007 10:13 PM

Bad ignition module
 
I towed my car to the shop this morning. It's confirm to be a bad ignition module. The cheapest price I found is $1500. Does anyone know where I can find one cheaper.

Jack

Ferdman 04-10-2007 11:45 AM

Jack, $1,500 sounds like a bargain to me ... provided it's a new ignition control module. I paid about $2,000 for a new one ... so if that's the cost of a used one I would opt to spend the extra money for a new one ... another used one may fail anytime then you're right back where you started, less $1,500.

Texholdem 04-10-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdman (Post 1475903)
Jack, $1,500 sounds like a bargain to me ... provided it's a new ignition control module. I paid about $2,000 for a new one ... so if that's the cost of a used one I would opt to spend the extra money for a new one ... another used one may fail anytime then you're right back where you started, less $1,500.

It is a pain for old car owners :( like me. The part is almost 1/2 of car value.

jylee 04-10-2007 10:40 PM

New MB part
 
The part is new, price is $1575+tax...or I can send it to Flordia to rebuild my old one for $1150. I will flip a coin tomorrow.

Jack

Ferdman 04-11-2007 06:18 AM

Jack, unless you're getting the price quote for the new ignition control module from a MB dealer I'd be very suspicious. These ignition control modules cannot be rebuilt because the insides are epoxied ... so the remanufacturers cannot determine what components are inside them. I've talked to Beckmann Technology (a remanufacturer) and that's their explanation. As I mentioned previously I bought a new ICM from the local dealer ... it's one for a 300SL as the dealer's Parts System doesn't list one available for a 300CE which has the same engine.

lee polowczuk 04-11-2007 09:34 AM

it seems to me...that going forward it won't make much sense to buy a used w124 with a 104 engine..

am i missing something here? does the 103 engine use a different type of system...?

jhodg5ck 04-11-2007 10:09 AM

Yes, the M103's have a different design. The early M104's in 124's and 129's are known for going bad. For a while new EZL's weren't even available from the dealer. Be glad they have them available again! I would stay away from used as it is most likely an older/inferior design..one which we all know is prone to failing.

For the $$$ this would be a Great time to swap over to a Megasquirt II w/ fuel and ignition control.

Jonathan


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