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antonino 04-08-2007 07:30 PM

correct oil viscosity for 97 420E
 
My brother in law purchased a 97 420E and it did not come with a manual. Can anyone please tell me what weight oil he shoud be using if he is going with synthetic?

Antonino

deanyel 04-08-2007 10:14 PM

It depends to a great extent on the climate where they live and drive. A 1997 model does not require synthetic oil. In any case you should get an owner's manual and a copy of the recommended fluids brochure. A dealer should be able to help you with this.

okc329 04-08-2007 10:43 PM

I have '97 E320...
 
which would have the same recommendations for oil. I looked at them and went with 5W30 (Pennzoil). I live in Missouri, have had the car since new and it has not used a drop of oil in 100K miles. I change oil and filter every 3500 to 4500 miles. I would not put synthetic oil in a car that was not designed for it.

Hatterasguy 04-09-2007 12:13 AM

Whatever oil MB specs for it, their is a sheet kicking around on this site somewhere.

Personaly I like Mobil 1 0w40, Delvac 1 5w40, and various Elf or Amsoil products seem to work well.

Don't go to heavy on an M119 or you will blow the oil tubes in the head and have some nice lifter tick.

manny 04-09-2007 04:39 PM

This answer your question ? ;)
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

uberwgn 04-09-2007 04:45 PM

Straight from factory recommended products...
 
For Vehicles Without Flexible Service System:

USA vehicles MY 1997 and earlier: The car requires 229.3 or 229.5 oil.


ACEA or API oil can be used if the mfr's speced oil is not available.

deanyel 04-09-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uberwgn (Post 1475138)
For Vehicles Without Flexible Service System:

USA vehicles MY 1997 and earlier: The car requires 229.3 or 229.5 oil.


ACEA or API oil can be used if the mfr's speced oil is not available.

Something that is "required" only when available is not actually a requirement. Such garbled language allows dealers to push more profitable, but unnecessary, synthetics on unsuspecting customers. MB fractures the English language when it is in their self-interest to do so. These are the same people who gave us the "first 4 door coupe" (CLS) when the definition of a coupe is an automobile with 2 doors.

antonino 04-09-2007 06:59 PM

Thanks for your input...I will pass the information along to my brother-in-law.

Antonino

uberwgn 04-09-2007 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanyel (Post 1475229)
Something that is "required" only when available is not actually a requirement. Such garbled language allows dealers to push more profitable, but unnecessary, synthetics on unsuspecting customers. MB fractures the English language when it is in their self-interest to do so. These are the same people who gave us the "first 4 door coupe" (CLS) when the definition of a coupe is an automobile with 2 doors.

The correct oils are available from many sources other than the dealer ;)

deanyel 04-09-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uberwgn (Post 1475285)
The correct oils are available from many sources other than the dealer ;)

Obvoiusly but the point related to which oils were "correct" - the difference between 229.3 / .5 recommended (mistated above as "required") and approved per the bulletin.

Hatterasguy 04-09-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manny (Post 1475132)
This answer your question ? ;)
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

Yeah one day I will save it. But all I have to do is refer to it and someone else posts it! You guys are always quick with stuff like that!:D

kanio 04-10-2007 11:24 AM

My 92 400E manual recommends 10w40 for all temp range. I will scan the page later and everyone can use it. No need for special oil, i just use normal off the shelf wally world stuff.

manny 04-10-2007 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1475512)
Yeah one day I will save it.
D

Procrastinator! :D

uberwgn 04-10-2007 07:46 PM

Dean, OK, not "required"...except in the eyes of a purist. :)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4702/oilgq8.jpg

ACEA or API oils acceptable only when correct oil is not available.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1836/viscowd3.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7751/coverbc5.jpg


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