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Old 09-15-2007, 06:57 PM
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Question 1990 300SEL a/c problem

If working on cars drove you crazy I'd been there a long time ago!! I purchased this car knowing the air and radio did not work. The compressor clutch was locked up. I have replaced the following in the a/c system. New dryer, txv, and reman compressor. Flushed the system. Charged the system today. I am using R134. Static pressure 100 lbs. Low pressure at idle 45 lbs. High pressure at idle 250 lbs. Air temp from center vents 78 degrees. I have heard that these a/c systems arn't great but I was hoping for a temp of 60 or below. Low pressure at 2000 rpm's 20 to 25 lbs. High pressure at 2000 rpm's 225 to 250 lbs. I know there is no water going through the heater core because I cut the rubber hose and plugged both ends. Is there an air flap that would cause the air to bypass the a/c core? I have had this car a year and would soon like to start driving it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:24 AM
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I was getting the same temperature out of my 420 SEL till I found the evaporator to be clogged full of pollen and Lord knows what other crap. This highly reduced the air flow. Now I get a temperature of 42 F out of the center vents and my son telling me he's to cold and to turn it off!

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Old 09-16-2007, 08:04 AM
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Thanks William,
How did you clean it? Do you have to remove it from the car? If so I see a major dash removal!!
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
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I fitted a new one with an already connected expansion valve. This is a dash out operation and requires some time and patients. To clean it you would have to blow it out with air in the opposite direction. But for a hundred and forty bucks off of e-Bay for a brand new one. Well... you can see which is the logical direction. Unfortunately these vehicle came before the pollen filter and definitely show the reason why the filter is needed.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:17 PM
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Charged the system today. I am using R134.
On a car that was originally R12 - shall we assume the car has been converted?
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Old 09-16-2007, 10:17 PM
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The car was R12 but had no freon when I purchased it. I decided to use R134a because all of my other cars have been changed over. I flushed the system and put in the correct amount of PAG oil. I changed all of my other cars when they leaked out with no problems.
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:57 PM
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What is the temp of the suction line (low pressure) where the service valve is ? Does it feel cold ? I am not sure that there should be such a large variation in suction pressure when you go from idle to 2000 rpm. 78 deg means the cooling is very weak. Is the belt nice and tight ? Was this a new expansion valve ?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:31 PM
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Yes the txv is new. This compressor is a reman. The line is cool to the touch but because of the air temp coming out I can't tell if I have too much freon or not enough. I can feel air blowing out through the grill under the wipers. I am not sure that the frash air door is not staying open all the time. This is my first MB so I am not sure what to expect from the AC system. I do not want to replace the evaporator unless it is necessary.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:44 AM
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suggest that you remove the glovebox to see fresh air door.it needs to be pushed forward to close.i made a pce of two by four with a v cut in one side and was able to jam the door closed.try this first and see what diff it makes.to get to the coil face you will need to remove the blower motor and reach down through the duct with a brush[it can be done].
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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Yes the txv is new. This compressor is a reman. The line is cool to the touch but because of the air temp coming out I can't tell if I have too much freon or not enough. I can feel air blowing out through the grill under the wipers. I am not sure that the frash air door is not staying open all the time. This is my first MB so I am not sure what to expect from the AC system. I do not want to replace the evaporator unless it is necessary.
How much freon did you put in?
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:45 PM
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Yes, use 80% of the R12 spec when substituting R134a.
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