I need new pads for my '90 300E. What is the best pad for good stopping performance and least dust generation, the Pagids, Mintex, or Textar?

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Andy_M
'98 W140 S320 Black/Black
'06 W164 ML500 AMG White/Grey
'03 Porsche 986 Midnight Blue/Grey

Andy, brake pads which provide excellent braking performance produce brake dust because they're soft enough to stop your car without the power assist ... such as in an emergency situation when the engine dies. Harder composition brake pads which produce less brake dust will not perform as well, and will likely wear the rotors prematurely. If you drive conservatively install Kleen Wheels to keep brake dust off your wheels. I use them on our MB automobiles without any adverse effects. Although some folks will recount horror stories of warped rotors and degraded braking performance resulting from Kleen Wheels. I use Textar brake pads exclusively.

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Fred Hoelzle

Try a search - you can read for days. I've been round and round on this and come back to PBR Deluxe.

I tried Pagids for a few years and found them to squeal a lot. Generated as much dust as OE.

I went back to Textars since they are OE. I can live with the dust.

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2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car

I have had PBR Deluxe pads on my ML for close to 25K and they are still fairly thick, work well, don't squeal and don't seem to wear the rotor much at all. I will stick with them for all my cars, based on their performance on my ML.

Ben Carter

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Ben Harrison Carter
1999 Mercedes ML320 87K
1992 Mercedes 300CE 89K
1995 Corvette 29K -- Sold Dec 09
1989 Mercedes 420SEL 99K -- (Sold 4/08)
1968 Mercedes 230S (106K) (Sold 9/06))
1976 Mercedes 450SEL 130K (Just sold - 06)
1961 Mercedes 220Sb (sold years ago)

Has anyone tried ceramic pads? PBR Ultimates, Akebono, or Porterfield? All claim better wear, no noise/squeal, and dramatically lower amounts of brake dust. User experience?!

Bob

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Bob Jones
Bradenton, FL
'87 560SL-Sold
'99 SL500 For Now

textar= no squeaks

brake dust....yes... most noticeably on front.

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1989 300ce 129k
( facelifted front,updated tail lights, lowered suspension,bilstein sports, lorinser front spoiler, MOMO steering wheel, remus exhaust,stainless steel brake lines). (Gone)

1997 s320 154k (what a ride). Sold with 179k miles. Replaced with Hyundai Equus

1994 e320 Cabriolet 108k



1972 280se 4.5 153k Owned for 12 yrs, sorry I sold it


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The PBR Deluxe are the old formula, the new one is called Axxis Deluxe Plus or Axxis Deluxe Advanced.

Great pads!

Iv'e got PBR Ultimates on teh front of the E320, no less dust than stock (actually seems like more). Akebono on the rear, no dust at all (the stock pads did leave some). At the time Akebono didn't have a listing for the fronts. Would change to them in a heartbeat. Feel is same as stock, otherwise my wife would have said something (like she did when I wanted to install lowering springs )

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Hanno
'79 6.9 Sold (after 27 years)
'83 280SL, 5 spd.
'94 E320 Sdn. 5 spd conversion
'02 E320 Sdn.(on loan to mom!)
'87 300E (5 spd. conversion) Sold
'05 E500 Wagon

Tried them once,......never again !
You have to get them very warm ( almost hot ), before they start performing well.
IF you spend a lot of time at the track, they'd be fine, for street use as I said NO way.

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2007 C 230 Sport.

OEM--Sears Imported Autos in Minneapolis does mail order AND, wholesale pricing on brake parts-952-512-6555-almost penny for penny same price as the cheapest Worldpac online seller.

OEM no warp, no squeak.

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Mark
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THE WHITE FLEET
2016 GLE300d 4-MATIC 38K BROWN!
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2007 ML320 CDI==166K WHITE (FOR SALE)

Under new management:
2005 E320 CDI--140K--WHITE
1995 E300-Diesel-133.5K--THE CAR IS BLUE
1986 300SL--97.5K (European) AND WHITE. Back in Europe!
1991 190E 2.3-73K California Perfect.--WHITE
1995 E320-Wagon-159K--WHITE (recently scrapped)
1987 300D Turbo-213K--WHITE
1987 190D 2.5 Turbo-288K--WHITE