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mark skeen 01-09-2008 10:07 AM

W126 brake problem
 
My 1987 420 SEL lost brake pedal - goes nearly to floor before engaging brakes. Checked and bled brakes without benefit. Red brake warning light stays on despite release of e-brake. Any ideas what has happened? Thanks, Mark

TX76513 01-09-2008 10:18 AM

Is there any visible fluid leaking anywhere?

mark skeen 01-09-2008 10:23 AM

w126 brake problem
 
I didn't see any leaks, Thanks, Mark

TX76513 01-09-2008 10:28 AM

Here are some ideas.

While you depress the brakes have a helper see if any of the soft line from the caliper to body hard lines are swelling.
OR
Pinch off the soft lines (vice grips) on each wheel position. If you have same symptom problem is most likely in booster or master cylinder. Then troubleshoot the master cylinder/booster. If problem ceases remove 1 clamp from each wheel until you identify the problem wheel.

I have made some assumptions that your fluid levels are correct, no visible leaks.

cdplayer 01-09-2008 11:15 AM

cdplayer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TX76513 (Post 1727281)
Here are some ideas.

While you depress the brakes have a helper see if any of the soft line from the caliper to body hard lines are swelling.
OR
Pinch off the soft lines (vice grips) on each wheel position. If you have same symptom problem is most likely in booster or master cylinder. Then troubleshoot the master cylinder/booster. If problem ceases remove 1 clamp from each wheel until you identify the problem wheel.

I have made some assumptions that your fluid levels are correct, no visible leaks.

If these suggestions do not solve your problem, remove the vacuum line leading from the brake booster to the engine and inspect for cracks. Also check function of check valve in this line. Just a thought..

t walgamuth 01-09-2008 01:22 PM

I don't think you can pinch off the flexible lines without ruining them. They are not just rubber, they have spiralled steel in them.

You could be suffering an internal leak in the master cylinder. Replacement or rebuilding is the only option.

Tom W

TX76513 01-09-2008 01:55 PM

It doesn't take much to close them off - not that you would want 1/8" gap in your vice grips.

lee polowczuk 01-09-2008 01:56 PM

i think your master cylinder is shot if you have no sign of leaks

TX76513 01-09-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee polowczuk (Post 1727478)
i think your master cylinder is shot if you have no sign of leaks

A swelling brake line if fairly common on the 126. It's worth a check $14 vs $102

Hatterasguy 01-09-2008 02:38 PM

Its probably the master cylinder.

As for the E brake light it probably needs to be adjusted. You can take up the slack under the car where the cable attaches to that big metal thing, forget what its called.

TX76513 01-09-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1727514)

. You can take up the slack under the car where the cable attaches to that big metal thing, forget what its called.

Big Metal Thing:P

Hatterasguy 01-09-2008 02:42 PM

Notbremse einstellschraube?


Better?:P:D

mark skeen 01-09-2008 05:10 PM

Thanks Everyone,
Let me get to work and I'll let you know what I find. Thanks, Mark


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