Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-30-2008, 10:05 PM
waybomb's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,557
87 420SEL electric fan issues

My aux fan runs full speed all the time.

Can somebody tell me which temperature sensor is the one controlling the electric fan on my 87 420sel? Is this a normally closed or normally open switch?

Also, which switch (location) in the ac system turns the fan on if high head pressure is present? Is this NO or NC?

Finally, Relay D is for the aux fan resistor. Where is this resistor, and how does it work?

Thanks in advance.
__________________
Thank You!
Fred
2009 ML350
2004 SL600
2004 SL500
1996 SL600
2002 SLK32
2005 CLK320 cabrio
2003 ML350
1997 C280 Sport
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-31-2008, 12:47 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Florida / N.H.
Posts: 8,804
Quote:
Originally Posted by waybomb View Post
My aux fan runs full speed all the time.

Can somebody tell me which temperature sensor is the one controlling the electric fan on my 87 420sel? Is this a normally closed or normally open
switch?

NO...http://catalog.peachparts.com/RenderScriptTemplate.epc?_cmd=epccat_VehicleAAA&cookieID=2FG17RJ3A2FH01J4MK&yearid=1987%40%401987&makeid=MB%40%40MB%40%40X&modelid=420%2DSEL%2D001%40%40420SEL&catid=G%40%40Cooling+System&mode=PA&subcatid=G5030@@Auxiliary+Fan+Switch&source=www.peachparts.com&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop

Also, which switch (location) in the ac system turns the fan on if high head pressure is present? Is this NO or NC?

NO...at reciever/drier
http://catalog.peachparts.com/RenderScriptTemplate.epc?_cmd=epccat_VehicleAAA&cookieID=2FG17RJ3A2FH01FEBU&yearid=1987%40%401987&makeid=MB%40%40MB%40%40X&modelid=420%2DSEL%2D001%40%40420SEL&catid=R%40%40Climate+Control&mode=PA&subcatid=R1055@@A%2FC+Temp%2E+Switch&source=www.peachparts.com&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop

Finally, Relay D is for the aux fan resistor. Where is this resistor, and how does it work?

Behind driver headlamp..drops V for low fan speed

Thanks in advance.

A Dalton
__________________
A Dalton
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-31-2008, 10:36 PM
waybomb's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,557
I can't find the resistor. I went to the parts section and found a picture (great way to find the unknown parts - thanks!). It looks similar to resistor found on Chrysler ignitions many years ago - is it about the same size as that? Where else could it be located on the car? I followed the fan wire - it goes to the fuse box. I can't imagine putting a resistor in the fuse box - it would get too hot.

Again, thanks!
__________________
Thank You!
Fred
2009 ML350
2004 SL600
2004 SL500
1996 SL600
2002 SLK32
2005 CLK320 cabrio
2003 ML350
1997 C280 Sport
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-31-2008, 11:21 PM
vanwiek's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by waybomb View Post
I can't find the resistor. I went to the parts section and found a picture (great way to find the unknown parts - thanks!). It looks similar to resistor found on Chrysler ignitions many years ago - is it about the same size as that? Where else could it be located on the car? I followed the fan wire - it goes to the fuse box. I can't imagine putting a resistor in the fuse box - it would get too hot.

Again, thanks!

Certain years of the W126 had the resistor around the fusebox, but i think they moved it as it was a fire hazard as leaves built up.
__________________
'94 E320 with 272,000 miles. '92 500SEL 133,000 miles.
Mods to the '94: TomTom GPS in place of ash tray, Auto Dimming Mirror ,Memory seat, DEI 545T Auto lamps, DEI 530T Auto Up/Down Windows, DEI Remote Start, Motorola Bluetooth® Car Kit, Built in phone charger using factory phone wiring, RainTracker Rain sensing wiper, Keyless Entry, Ambient lighting of center storage compartment. Soon: factory heated seats, REST
Mercedes-Benz is my addiction of choice.
http://www.youtube.com/vanwiek
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-05-2008, 08:05 PM
waybomb's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,557
I tested the temperature sensor and it indicates a closed switch with the engine cold. I figured disconnecting the wire would simulate an open switch, but the fan still runs at full speed. So, I do need a new temperature switch because it is closed when it should be open.

The AC switch is open as it should be.

I can not find the resistor. It is not anywhere near the headlight or the inner fender. I even disassembled the fuse box to see if it was in there. Not there.

1) By disconnecting the temperature switch, wouldn't that be the same as having a NO switch? It is only a one wire switch.
2) Anybody know where this resistor is? What should its resistance be?
3) What else can cause my issue?

Thanks
Fred
__________________
Thank You!
Fred
2009 ML350
2004 SL600
2004 SL500
1996 SL600
2002 SLK32
2005 CLK320 cabrio
2003 ML350
1997 C280 Sport
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-05-2008, 08:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Florida / N.H.
Posts: 8,804
I think they have a mistake in the parts listing.
That single wire sensor may be the temp gauge sensor.
Here is the aux fan High speed sensor
http://catalog.peachparts.com/RenderScriptTemplate.epc?_cmd=epccat_VehicleAAA&cookieID=2FG17RJ3A2FM17NS85&yearid=1987%40%401987&makeid=MB%40%40MB%40%40X&modelid=420%2DSEL%2D001%40%40420SEL&catid=G%40%40Cooling+System&mode=PA&subcatid=G5045@@Engine+Temp%2E+Sensor&source=www.peachparts.com&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop

Do a test :
Look at the temp gause with warm car and then unplug that single sensor and tell me what happens to gauge .......

then, unplug that 3 wire sensor and see if fans go off.
Is this single fan??
You may also have a stuch high fan relay..
__________________
A Dalton
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page