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Old 11-05-2008, 05:07 PM
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1995 E420 Stalls runs rough

hi All,
I have a 1995 E420, wierd things have been hapenning.
Even since I changed the fan clutch and Radiator ( got Shredded) the car has been acting wierd.
It starts normally, roars like any v8, runs for about 10 mins, feels like it is suffocating ( not enough gas) then turns off. Then if you try to start it, it wont start, it will start backfiring ( Loudly).
If you leave it alone for about an hour and come to start it , it will start right away.
No Engine Light.

One thing i did notice when it was on in idle, and I felt it started to stumble, I thought I would give it some gas to see if it would correct it, but it just turned off, and wouldnt start for another hour.
Even if I am driving, it will stall on me.

Any Ideas, Thanks in advance
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:36 PM
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One thing to Mention, I just Read the codes off the reader ( the main One)
I got code 6 and Code 13.
Which are idle speed control fault and Camshaft position sensor Defective.
One other thing, Even if it starts running rough and I turn it off myself, It still wont turn on unless I wait 45 min-1 hour.
Hope than helps
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:01 PM
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The codes are telling you to check pins 4 and 7.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:17 PM
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so if i use the code reader and read them off pin 4 and 7 and it should clarify the problem?
I am thinking the camshaft sensor code is just from me trying to crank it and keeps backfiring, I dont think it is causing the car to choke and turn off.
i will Read the codes and re-post
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:58 AM
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I looked at the code reader, there is only 8 pins and 4 and 7 are empty, is there somewhere else i should be checking?
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:53 AM
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You're on the 8 pin auxillary connector. You need to be on the 38 pin diagnostic connector which is in the black box next to it.
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:59 PM
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its mounted on top of the left cylinder head by the fuel rail at intake manifold area it should have a resistance of 900 to 1600 ohms.
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:08 PM
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I checked it, seems fine, but i dont get that code anymore, ust code 6, which is idle.....
but then doesnt make sense that when it turns off it doesnt turn back on, you have to wait like an hour for it to start again.
Very puzzling, if you try to start it right when it turns off, u can feel it almost wanting to start, then it starts backfiring.
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:45 PM
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I just took the car for a drive, and made sure i didnt slow down, and if i did I would put it in nuetral and kept the rpms up.
It didnt turn off once, but I did notice it started to backfire and hesitate every time i took off from nuetral to d, but it did get better, I left it on after the short trip and it stayed on, but when i give it gas in idle, it backfires at the low rpms then smooths out.
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:18 AM
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Instead of waiting for an hour, disconnect the battery, and see if it starts back up or not. (don't forget that you will need to reset the radio code).
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:22 AM
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Oh I tried that, still does the same thing, seems like it is starving for gas on idle and when u first give it gas, u feel it backfiring, or possibly it could be getting too much gas where its flooding in low idle, or possibly not getting enough air, or the car thinks its not getting enough air.
Hope i didnt complicate it.
I have read several posts from people with the similar problem, but none of them show a solution.
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:11 PM
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Question have you looked at the caps and rotors they may have gotten wet? causing your missfire condition they are usually corroded when you take them off and you will find carbon tracks shorting them out.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:24 PM
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Where are those located? do you mean the coils?
Do you think its just a coinsidence it started doing that after they changed the radiator?
possibly they put the wrong coolant, or possibly messed up something?
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:02 PM
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I started to describe where they are at, when I remembered this:http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/M119DistCapRotor
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:17 PM
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I will check them today, do you think that would cause the car to stall and not start for an hour, and to backfire?
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