PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/index.php)
-   Tech Help (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Fuchs Titan 4134 ATF backwards compatibility (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=254556)

Jim Herold 06-11-2009 02:45 PM

Fuchs Titan 4134 ATF backwards compatibility
 
Is it advisable (or even preferable) to do a AT fluid change on a 1999 ML 430 with the 722.6 transmission using Fuchs Titan 4134 ATF developed for the 722.9 transmission? This would result in mixing whatever is left of the original ATF 001-989-21-03-10 with the newest ATF 001-989-68-03-10.

Any problems if I do this?

Any benefits?

Thank you--Jim Herold

mbdoc 06-11-2009 03:40 PM

Fuchs says 100% compatable with any Dexron trans fluid.

They also state for "full benefit" of this newer & better fluid, a complete flush is required.

jcyuhn 06-12-2009 10:53 AM

Curious here - how does the Fuchs 4134 compare with the Fuchs 3353 product? The 3353 is also specified for the 722.9 & 722.6 and also carries Dexron III certification.

- JimY

mbdoc 06-12-2009 12:18 PM

In August 2008 MBUSA followed Daimler (may 08) & stated that 3353 was no longer a valid fluid for the 722.9 series trans.

Trans fluid spec for 722.9 is 236.14 & only Fuchs 4134 & DSH (Shell Germany) 4134 is approved.

4134 is a much higher viscosity fluid with greater temp ranges & higher load range.

loubapache 06-12-2009 12:30 PM

2 Attachment(s)
The Mobile ATF 134 is also an officially approved fluid by Mercedes for 236.14 specs.

The viscosity actually has not changed from 3353 to 4134. They are still around 30 cSt at 40 deg C and 6.5 cSt arond 100 deg C.

fluid / viscosity at 40 deg C / Viscosity at 100 deg C
Fuchs ATF 3353 / 31.0 / 6.3

Fuchs ATF 4134 / 29.6 / 6.5
Shell ATF 134 / 29 / 6.2
Mobil ATF 134 / 29.6 / 6.5

mbdoc 06-12-2009 01:31 PM

According to Fuchs...?? Mobil 134 is re-packaged Fuchs 134/4134 fluid!

bro_hof 07-20-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.B.DOC (Post 2223075)
According to Fuchs...?? Mobil 134 is re-packaged Fuchs 134/4134 fluid!

Wow, learn something new every day! I wonder if the local Autozone or Advance Auto carries the Mobil version?

whunter 03-16-2010 02:16 AM

Good to know
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.B.DOC (Post 2223038)
In August 2008 MBUSA followed Daimler (may 08) & stated that 3353 was no longer a valid fluid for the 722.9 series trans.

Trans fluid spec for 722.9 is 236.14 & only Fuchs 4134 & DSH (Shell Germany) 4134 is approved.

4134 is a much higher viscosity fluid with greater temp ranges & higher load range.

Here is a picture of the product.

Hary Gahtoe 05-26-2010 11:27 PM

Is this True? Is Fuchs making the Mobil 1 134?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.B.DOC (Post 2223075)
According to Fuchs...?? Mobil 134 is re-packaged Fuchs 134/4134 fluid!

I've used Mobil 1 synthetic oil and really trust it. If Fuch is whats in the Mobil 134 atf & its not available here in the US then its good as I can get. I just can't find any info on Fuchs and want something I can be sure of is the very best of what I can find.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website