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John5788 07-30-2009 01:31 AM

M103, bad fuel pressure regulator?
 
I've been having a starting problem with my car, but never really cared to fix it until now.

sometimes after I've let my 1993 2.6 sit around for more than 4 hours, the car becomes hard to start. I let the fuel pump prime, and I start cranking it. the engine does not start, OR if it does, it immediately dies. on the second try though, the engine kicks on after the first starter click.

does this sound like a bad fuel pressure regulator to you?

tinypanzer 07-30-2009 04:36 PM

I'd start by making sure the plugs aren't fouled.

A fuel pressure test would be needed to verify a bad FPR.

Oracle12345 07-30-2009 05:01 PM

I would check fuel pressure then go from there

lkchris 07-30-2009 05:12 PM

The M103 at its age has mostly leaking injectors.

They flood the motor making it hard to start when hot/warm.

Verify by trying next time with throttle depressed a little.

Replace old leaking injectors and don't worry much about pressure regulator.

Cal Learner 07-31-2009 07:45 AM

Can't the FPR be checked quickly and easily by simply pulling the small plastic tube off it while engine idles to see if fuel comes out of FPR? If yes, the diaphragm is bad and FPR needs to be replaced.

Oracle12345 07-31-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal Learner (Post 2258786)
Can't the FPR be checked quickly and easily by simply pulling the small plastic tube off it while engine idles to see if fuel comes out of FPR? If yes, the diaphragm is bad and FPR needs to be replaced.

Not really more involved

tinypanzer 07-31-2009 05:23 PM

You'd know if the diaphragm was torn, but that's about it. If it WAS torn, however, you'd be sucking gas into your intake and it would be hard for that to escape notice.

pawoSD 07-31-2009 06:07 PM

Mine does the exact same thing....eventually when my car $$ pool builds back up (its been heavily drained lately :eek: ) I will throw new injectors on mine...

Oracle12345 07-31-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2259193)
Mine does the exact same thing....eventually when my car $$ pool builds back up (its been heavily drained lately :eek: ) I will throw new injectors on mine...

I would check fuel pressure first before replacing anything. The orginal posters problem sounds like a fuel pressure problem. Could be anything such as the fuel pump not putting out the normal volume of fuel, enough pressure, leaks in the system, internal and external.

pawoSD 08-01-2009 01:58 AM

Yes, but a weak pump would cause other issues, my car starts fine if it has been off long enough to cool a bit....or when started from cold....its just those few hours after sitting starts that are harder. I found that giving the pedal a press as its cranking will allow it to fire right up. It also starts right up as long as it has been under 1.5 hours or so since it was shut off. Its not a huge deal, it starts within 2-3 seconds even when cranky....(pun intended :D :D) and if I just stop and give a second try, it always starts right up on the second try. I'm not worried....and have no current plans to touch the injectors. It needs tie rods first... :D

John5788 08-02-2009 12:23 AM

how much fuel pressure should I be seeing and where should I be measuring it from on the fuel distributor? what do I replace if the fuel pressure is bad? fuel pumps?

my injectors are brand new as of around march, so thats not the problem. holding the throttle open while cranking the motor does not help.


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