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sakpase 12-12-2009 02:22 PM

If you reading everything from the start dhaghighi you will see that the tech replaced everything. Started with the engine wiring harness and all the ignition system and the car is still doing the same thing.

Hirnbeiss 12-12-2009 03:41 PM

Does it throw off any codes?

TylerH860 12-12-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dhaghighi (Post 2359208)

That's why I refrain from any 93-95 Mercedes....

Once they've been replaced, they're just as good as the rest. They're not too ridiculously expensive either, especially if you locate a wrecked car with a harness that had already been replaced.

sakpase 12-12-2009 05:36 PM

It throws p0300 with an obd 2 but when the tech check it on the star it says cylinder 2 and 5 not working. he put a new coil and injectors and still misfire

dhaghighi 12-12-2009 10:21 PM

harness
 
Actually I read that you rebuilt the lower harness.
Is there any old harness or wiring in your engine bay?

If this guy changed all these items to fix the problem, and it is still not fixed, I would really stick-it-to-him. You probably won't have to go to court if you show up with your evidence and present your case to him. If he's smart, he will realize that he will lose to you in court.

These mechanics have to be held accountable....not just change a bunch of parts and cross your fingers.

sakpase 12-13-2009 03:15 AM

Now he has no choice now, he should of say if he couldn't fix it instead of chaging all those parts. I hope so because i keep all my receit. It's either he fixed it or take all their parts out and give me my money back if not i'll make sure i ruin their reputation by calling them to street court.

Hirnbeiss 12-13-2009 08:23 AM

So the last status is that "injectors on 2 and 5 don't work"? Have they been retested? Another thing to make sure is taht the injector seals (o-rings) are good.
By the way, what part of the world is the car in?

sakpase 12-13-2009 01:10 PM

The oring in the injectors are good there is no leak no where to be foud. The car is in New York the

dhjenkins 12-14-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sakpase (Post 2359599)
Now he has no choice now, he should of say if he couldn't fix it instead of chaging all those parts. I hope so because i keep all my receit. It's either he fixed it or take all their parts out and give me my money back if not i'll make sure i ruin their reputation by calling them to street court.

Good luck with that.:rolleyes: You'll have to take it to a different shop that's willing to sign an affadavit and testify; not likely.

P0300 is a misfire code on multiple cylinders; misfires are most commonly caused by a lean condition (no gas) or can be caused by a clogged exhaust (among many, many other things). I'd use a noid light on the injectors ($20) to make sure they're firing or remove the upstream O2 sensors and drive it to see if driveability improves - if so, the cat is probably collapsed.

sakpase 12-14-2009 06:03 PM

Hey dhjenkins you said remove the upstream 02 sensor to see if the
driveability increase, you talking about the sensor before the catalytic converter right. The tech still have the car i had a talked with him about taking all the parts out and give me my money back since he can't fix the problem and he insisted that he'll fix the problem to give him sometimes, so we'll see.

dhjenkins 12-14-2009 10:43 PM

Yeah, the one between the converter and the engine. If the cat is collapsed, the exhaust will come out of the O2 sensor bung.

sakpase 12-15-2009 03:28 AM

Oh alright! I will try that when the tech give me the car if he doesn't fix the problem i'll try that

gmercoleza 12-15-2009 09:08 AM

You can also use an IR thermometer to find extreme temperature differential before and after the cat to determine if it's bad. Some bad cats get so hot they will even start glowing after a highway run.

dhjenkins 12-15-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gmercoleza (Post 2361118)
You can also use an IR thermometer to find extreme temperature differential before and after the cat to determine if it's bad. Some bad cats get so hot they will even start glowing after a highway run.

Of course, an excess amount of unburned gas going through the cat will make it run extra hot, too; which will, of course, lead to premature cat failure.

I've tried the IR trick, but it's just not reliable enough for me; then again, that goes with the territory when you service multiple makes.

gmercoleza 12-15-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dhjenkins (Post 2361176)
Of course, an excess amount of unburned gas going through the cat will make it run extra hot, too; which will, of course, lead to premature cat failure.

I've tried the IR trick, but it's just not reliable enough for me; then again, that goes with the territory when you service multiple makes.

Just another suggestion and by no means the only option.


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