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Very Bad Running 300E
Hey guys I have been through the site a lot in the past week looking for what could be wrong with this car.
I have a 1988 300E with 167k. Car was given to me by father in law. It ran great and had MB service the entire time he owned the car. Now on to the good stuff. Wife had been driving it and said that the blower wasn't working anymore. No issue for me as the car is still cold when I arrive at work 3 min drive. I took the car from her filled it with 87....I know. Anyways the car started to drive really bad. It felt like it had a bad miss. So I pulled the plugs and changed them. while I was changing them I looked at the rotor and cap. Did not look good but thought is this fixes it then I will change that a little later. Again got to #5 broke the wire. Went and got new wires. Replaced all of them and it was still running bad. Then on the way home i looked down and remembered oh **** it needs premium fuel. So i went and bought some lucas oil octane booster and filled it up. No change. Drove it a few more days with the bad miss but fine idle. Then it got worse so I replaced the rotor and cap. No change. Tested the coil. Got a MSD coil to replace it with but have not changed it since I do not believe that is the problem. This weekend I seen that it was at a half tank so I filled it back up with 93 octane. Ran great after the fill up. Went to drive it in the morning and it was running ****y again. Just drove it to the store to get cigs and it is really running badly. It will not idle or drive unless I FLOOR it. You can shut the engine off then start it again and it will idle for about 15 secs fine then starts to pitter and putter. Floor it it will idle again in the same sequence. ANY IDEAS........ I am quite familiar with cars besides mercedes. I have owned many race cars but am at my self with this one. PLEASE HELP. |
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I am thinking that maybe the fuel pumps but am really unsure. Car has always been driven never sat around
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You should have let the tank empty out before adding the fresh gas, epecially if you aren't buying quality gas (toptiergas.com).
My MB had about 8 gallons of 'bad' gas in it (from sitting) which I put in my '00 Sierra. Truck ran like crap, hard start, stumble, etc... basically the driveability you're describing and only got slightly better when I added 10 gallons of premium (only requires 87). This time I ran the tank almost dry before refilling, and full tank of 87 had it back to normal. Still, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check and see if your pumps are running, how they sound & what kind of current they're drawing. If you haven't changed the fuel filter(s) lately, that might be something else to look at.
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I am unfamiliar with Mercedes engineering so if you offer advise can you please offer guidance with it. Thanks |
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300E
Check the DIY links for info on the pumps and filter. It is easy to change the filter. It might be clogged or contaminated.........................
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I dont see anything that describes the location of the filters in a 300e. Lots of information on the diesels though
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As suggested above do replace the fuel filter and the adjacent fuel accumulator .
Next would be to clean the tank filter/ strainer. with this end clean most fuel starvation and hot starts (accumulator caused ) will be sorted. mak |
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Thanks All. This sounds much easier to change out then my 04 cobra. Gotta drop the entire IRS Subframe to get to it...I will try this and report back tomorrow night
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where can I find the accumulator at????
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Get new pumps, filter, accumulator and fuel tank vent valve on Friday. Figure just change it all since I am there already.
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Same problem
I have the same problem and it's been driving me nuts. I replaced the spark plugs, cap, rotor, OVP, fuel distributor (had a couple of spares) and finally, the fuel filter. Had some improvements now reading this I have to go replace the fuel accumulator.maybe the fuel pump. Hopefully my catalytic converter is not clogged.
Vehicle- 190E 2.6 Sportline I replaced both fuel pumps and the fuel accumulator, The catalytic converter was good still the problem was there.....I replaced the fuel injectors and the car ran much better after that. Last edited by sdpartz; 01-25-2010 at 01:13 AM. Reason: Update |
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Alright,
Got the new pumps, filter, and accumulator. Full Tank of Premium 93. Still has the same problem. It is so bad that it is undriveable. I did notice today when I drove it that the check engine light would come on and off when it was acting up. Anybody have any idea's? Could it be the CAT's? |
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Did you replace the wire from the coil to the distributor cap? What type spark plugs did you install? Refer to the Owner's Manual for the correct non-resistor spark plug for your engine. You may want to confirm that the ignition wires are routed to the proper cylinder from the distributor cap. Note that Bosch distributor caps have each terminal marked with the corresponding cylinder.
I presume you installed a new fuel filter.
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