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nucor 01-05-2010 06:40 PM

gas smell
 
i changed my gas filter back about month ago in my 94 e420 i am starting to smell gas near the rear passenger side of the car but there is no leak i dont see gas on ground n gas mileage is real bad now

86560SEL 01-05-2010 06:52 PM

Could be a poor seal on your fuel tank cap.

tinypanzer 01-05-2010 09:01 PM

Not trying to be flip or sarcastic in this response, but you've contradicted yourself. If you're smelling gas then there IS a leak, by definition.

So, if this problem cropped up right after the fuel filter was changed, then that's probably the source of the leak. Compression fittings can be a real pain. Sometimes they just don't want to seal up and you wind up having to polish out whatever blemishes have occurred on the mating surfaces.

Just because you don't see gas on the ground doesn't mean much. Keep in mind that gas evaporates very quickly and I've seen rather substantial leaks that never made it to the ground, they just trickle all over the undercarriage and stink everything up. On bright metal surfaces, the evaporating gas will leave behind a yellow-brown varnish which will have a gas odor. A quick wipe with a cloth followed by a sniff will tell you if that's going on.

If you did the filter yourself, I'd try to re-seal the compression fitting. If you paid to have it done, then take it back, it's under warranty.

The other possibility is that you have an evap/purge issue possibly due to a plugged up charcoal canister or some other tank venting issue. That would possibly explain mileage too, but then so would a leak.


Quote:

Originally Posted by nucor (Post 2375220)
i changed my gas filter back about month ago in my 94 e420 i am starting to smell gas near the rear passenger side of the car but there is no leak i dont see gas on ground n gas mileage is real bad now


big dog 2 01-05-2010 09:13 PM

Gas Smell
 
I had the same problem for awhile! There were no leaks until one day the gas smell got worse (along with the gas mileage) and a small puddle of gas appeared below the car where the filter was. Turned out the rubber hose from the fuel filter to the metal fuel line had a small crack in it and it got worse over time. I ordered a new hose online for about $25. It is a hose with a custom fitting on it that attaches to the fuel filter. It was simple to replace!

dhjenkins 01-06-2010 09:25 AM

No puddle does not equal no leak as fuel evaporates quickly.

Recheck your fittings & hoses. Apply some yellow teflon tape just in case.

If your rubber hoses are hard, replace them.

gsxr 04-12-2010 02:49 PM

Any update and/or solution?

:boat:

stevenstevensteven 07-07-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhjenkins (Post 2375596)
No puddle does not equal no leak as fuel evaporates quickly.

Recheck your fittings & hoses. Apply some yellow teflon tape just in case.

If your rubber hoses are hard, replace them.

I've got a similar problem, which I've also had in the past with my compression fittings. I've not tried the yellow teflon tape before, is that a common fix for sealing these compression fittings?

I was thinking about trying some of the blue locktite I have. Is that an acceptable option?

Rob Pruijt 07-07-2010 03:17 PM

I always put a little grease on the compression fittings, they seal more easily that way.

Rob

stevenstevensteven 07-07-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2500854)
I always put a little grease on the compression fittings, they seal more easily that way.

Rob

Actually, I just did some poking around on the web and the following Permatex product was suggested for automotive flare nut applications.

http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/thread_compounds/a_thread_sealants/auto_Permatex_High_Performance_Thread_Sealant.htm

Any comments on this product?

Ferdman 07-07-2010 06:03 PM

nucor, closely examine the rubber fuel lines in the vicinity of the fuel pump with the engine running. I recently replaced the rubber fuel lines on our 1995 E320 because they were leaking. The fuel lines utilized hose clamps on both ends, as opposed to compression fittings, so check what style fuel lines are on your car before purchasing any replacement parts. Purchased replacement fuel line at our local MB dealer and reused the hose clamps.

86560SEL 07-08-2010 12:14 AM

I was going to give you Barney Fifes answer to this....

In a high agitated voice....
"Of course you smell gas, what do you think this car runs on, coal"?

LOL. Sorry, could not resist. :D

Rob Pruijt 07-08-2010 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven (Post 2500870)
Actually, I just did some poking around on the web and the following Permatex product was suggested for automotive flare nut applications.

http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/thread_compounds/a_thread_sealants/auto_Permatex_High_Performance_Thread_Sealant.htm

Any comments on this product?

Compression fittings do not seal on the treads, the grease is just to make it seat more easy.

Rob

stevenstevensteven 07-08-2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2500854)
I always put a little grease on the compression fittings, they seal more easily that way.

Rob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2501229)
Compression fittings do not seal on the treads, the grease is just to make it seat more easy.

Rob

Rob, I'm a little confused. So you do NOT put the grease on the threads of the flare nut?

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9009/flarenutlg.jpg


When then do you apply the grease, on the tapered portion of the nut? If yes, does this simply help create a barrier/seal when the flare nut is compressed onto the end of the metal hose? If placing the grease on the tapered portion, do I not need to concern myself with getting grease inside the fuel system and fouling the injectors?

Thanks.

Rob Pruijt 07-08-2010 04:52 PM

Not on the treads just a little bit on the mating surfaces.

The grease can not get in the fuel system, the pressure is in the other direction.

Rob

WaBenzer 05-14-2011 08:48 AM

Grease on flare fittings substitute
 
As an aircraft mechanic, when in the field without resources, I've found that most flare fittings *except oxygen lines fire hazard* I can rub my clean fingers on the crease between my nose and cheek. Or, rub my forehead and wipe my fingers on the flare surfaces. The film helps the metals slide to seat when tightening. The threads may need a little too. Because the threads are supposed to be dry, sometimes the lines just won't line up good enough to start threading without a little help.


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