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1990 300CE engine 104.980
I just bought one with 169k miles. The engine looks a bit weird to me with no front cover and the spark plugs are exposed, not under a plastic cover.
Are the covers missing or there is none? In EPC I don't see them either. Engine is 104.980, is quite different from my 1996 E320 with M104.995, more like M103
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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Pictures?
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1993 300E, 2.8 M104 ..... |
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I will upload some, just feeling a bit embarrassed since it is unsightly with gunk and paint flaking off the head cover Need to clean up.
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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Motor is quite different from your .995 engine.
It should have covers, and look something like this... However, it is also radically different on the inside as well, which you can view here: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=269449 How do the two compare in your driving impressions?
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1993 190E 2.6 Sportline |
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my first impression is that the 300CE has more torque, accelerates better. Before the 1996 E320 I had a 1989 300ce too, but what a difference a year makes (1990 to 1989).
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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Quote:
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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Your engine is the early version of the M104.992 engine. It still uses the old CIS-E carried over from the M103 engine. It puts out similar hp as the M104.992, but a lot less torque, and develops peak torque at a much higher rpm.
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Paul S. 2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior. 79,200 miles. 1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron". |
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Not exactly true. The .98 isn't very similar at all to the .99 series and that even comes to basic bore x stroke. The M104.98 shares much more in common with the M103 than the later M104's. Though you are correct on the hp and torque outputs.
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1993 190E 2.6 Sportline |
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So is it just a 3.0 liter M103 engine with a dual overhead cam and variable valve timing?
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Paul S. 2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior. 79,200 miles. 1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron". |
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And pretty much. The Simplex chain was changed to a Duplex chain and the Oil squirter bosses were finally tapped for oil squirters. But the early model shares the 88.5x80.2mm bore x stroke of the M103 3.0L while the .99 is 89.9x 84mm giving the 3.2L displacement.
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1993 190E 2.6 Sportline |
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is the opv specific to the 90 300ce??? anyone have a part #, my 90 is running like it has a stumble,so i switched the opv with a 300e part.
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1992 500E silver 1990 300ce AMG 1993 500e smoke silver-sold 1992 500e sold pearl black-sold 1966 mustang converible 289 1969 camaro x11 1991 ZR-1 1972 corvette roadster 2000 dodge cummins 4x4 sold 1994 e320 sold 1987 560sec Brabus 1987 300E (my first benz) |
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zr one, replacing the Oxygen sensor eliminated the hesitation/stumble from a dead stop in my 1991 300CE.
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Fred Hoelzle |
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I am looking to buy the covers, do you have the part #? in epc there is none.
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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No, I've been looking for them. If you find the number can you PM Me? I need the covers as well.
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1993 190E 2.6 Sportline |
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Found them
104 158 02 85 & 104 150 01 75 I have been seeking at the wrong group in EPC, they are listed under ignition system while I searched under engine assembly.
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1996 E320 since 1/16/08, 171K miles as of Feb 2011 --------------------------------------------------------- 1989 300CE - R.I.P. Dec 29 2007 Other MBs (sold): 1992 300E-24 - 1979 350SLC - 1984 230E - 1990 300CE |
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