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Spetz 04-16-2010 10:59 AM

Fan not coming on
 
I have an E220 coupe, and today I noticed that the fan would not come on.

There is only 1 fan in front of the radiator/air con condenser, and one which is behind the radiator, and is ran off of the engine. The one off of the engine was on, but the one in front of the radiator did not come on at all.
I had A/C blasting, outside temp was 28 degrees C, engine temp would go up over the 80 mark and peaked a bit lower than the next line above 80.
I opened the hood and flicked the fan to start but it didn't.

What would I do to diagnose the issue?
When should the fan be going on?

Any help is greatly appreciated

JohnM. 04-16-2010 12:45 PM

Responded in your coolant post but,

Your engine is supposed to run just over the 80C hash mark. The auxiliary fan (in front of radiator) will only kick on when your engine temperature goes slightly over the 100C hash mark (~105). The fan attached to the engine runs all the time (obviously)

LarryBible 04-16-2010 03:48 PM

Not sure about YOUR car because it is not a US model. With MOST cars employing an electric fan in front and an engine driven fan behind, the electric is activated upon excessive high side a/c pressure to bring the pressure down.

Spetz 04-16-2010 04:21 PM

Well, the engine may not have reached 100 degrees, however the A/C was on (and I put it on the highest setting to test it) and the fan would not kick in.

Is it possible there was just no need for it to turn on?
I read somewhere I can "trick" it into coming on? Or even modify it to come on earlier than 100 degrees?

Thanks for the replies guys, the car holds grave sentimental value to me and it is very important it runs 100% all the time.

macdrone 04-16-2010 11:34 PM

Yes the engine temp sensor on the intake and the reciever dryer sensor can both be "jumpered" to kick that fan on. Also check strip fuse on the driver side strut mount in the tootsie roll sized case.

Spetz 04-17-2010 05:32 AM

Can you please give me some more detail?

Spetz 04-17-2010 09:32 AM

Ok, so from searching I have gathered that if the A/C gas pressure is low, the fan will not come on.
Is there a way to test the pressure? Or should I get a mechanic to test it, and if so, what should the pressure be?
I got the A/C regassed less than a year ago though, as the fan played up and some switches were changed.

The other possibilities are faulty switches, or a faulty fan.
Is this correct?

Can anyone tell me the easiest thing to diagnose and how to do it?
Thanks

macdrone 04-17-2010 04:05 PM

Freon pressure can be tested with a freon charge bottle with gage from an auto store for about 22 dollars.

You can jumper the switch on the dryer and fan should come on if it doesnt check the strip fuse on the firewall. If there is voltage getting to the fan its the fan motor.

Gilly 04-17-2010 08:06 PM

What year is this car???

Gilly

Spetz 04-18-2010 07:28 AM

Late 1994

Spetz 04-22-2010 09:16 AM

Guys,
Are these the wires I need to "splice" to see if the fan isn't working due to low pressure?
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...83/MercFan.jpg

I took the plugs from the wires in the red circle, and with another wire made them touch each other but the fan did not go on with the car in the ON position.
Where would the fuse be for the fan system?

latief 04-22-2010 09:32 AM

yes, but don't 'splice' them/cut them....just expose the metal connector under both white plugs, and while the car is running, hold a wire and let it touch both connectors. they should come on....

Spetz 04-22-2010 09:33 AM

I didn't cut them, I just didn't know the proper word to use. Jumped them???

Anyway, they don't turn the fan on, but the brown wires to the left do which I came to the conclusion that these are the wires I was looking for

latief 04-22-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spetz (Post 2452777)
I didn't cut them, I just didn't know the proper word to use. Jumped them???

Anyway, they don't turn the fan on, but the brown wires to the left do which I came to the conclusion that these are the wires I was looking for

My bad :)

I was also talking about the brown wires......yes, those are the ones to jump...

Spetz 04-22-2010 10:35 AM

Well with those wires jumped, the fan does turn on
So now I guess I will take the car for a gas refill, even though it was done less than a year ago.
I am hoping that they simply didn't fill it up completely last time


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