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LarryBible 08-06-2010 12:49 PM

Good catch deanyel. Yes, it is very important to torque them equally in a five pointed star pattern. I have found that MB's are durable enough to just snug them up by feel in a five pointed star pattern, but if you don't trust yourself to feel that they are snugged the same it wouldn't hurt to use a torque wrench. I use a torque wrench on about everything BESIDES a Benz.

kwontumspeed 08-06-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by deanyel (Post 2520111)
You're carefully torqueing the lug nuts to spec?

Yes, 100ft/lbs with an electronic snap-on.

Sev 08-06-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kwontumspeed (Post 2520151)
Yes, 100ft/lbs with an electronic snap-on.

it's supposed to be 110 ft/lbs babe

kwontumspeed 08-06-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sev (Post 2520153)
it's supposed to be 110 ft/lbs babe

Yup, sorry. Typo.
100ft/lbs is for my landcruiser...

Rob Pruijt 08-06-2010 03:36 PM

A sticking caliper piston can give vibrations, make sure they can move freely.

Rob

kwontumspeed 08-06-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2520262)
A sticking caliper piston can give vibrations, make sure they can move freely.

Rob

Sure, but wouldn't a symptom of a stuck piston pull the car away from the weak side?

babymog 08-06-2010 04:43 PM

Not on the rear.

Ferdman 08-07-2010 06:15 AM

speed, as far as I know the correct torque value for 124 lug bolts (M12) is 81 ft/lbs. Larger diameter lug bolts (M14) on newer MB automobiles require 100 ft/lbs. (It's possible the W124 500E's and E500's have larger diameter lug bolts that require 100 ft/lbs.)

EuroRash 08-03-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by emerydc8 (Post 2518864)
Try to stop just using the emergency brake with one had on the release handle. It would rule out the front brakes if there is no vibration.

Edited: On second thought, I'm not sure if the emergency brake controls the pads or just the shoes on the inside.

Old post but just FYI:

Yes the Park Brake engages a shoe pad mechanism. Which pushes outward against the inside the disc or rotor. The regular main brake "pads" squeeze (outside of) the rotor like a vice when applying the brake pedal. :cool:

Typically vibrations are caused by faulty wheel bearing or hubs. More prominent at 45-50 mph speeds. But if you only feel the vibration when braking then possible glazing on pads or lower control arm ball joints. Though if LCA are bad you would also have tracking on uneven roads or car pulling or drifting like if it needs an alignment. I know on E30 BMWs they make a clunking noise when driving over driveways entrances or potholes

Bigdaddybenz 08-03-2012 09:43 PM

YOUR LUG NUTS ARE TOO TIGHT CAUSING THE ROTORS TO BOW, THUS VIBRATE WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!

EuroRash 08-03-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddybenz (Post 2985663)
YOUR LUG NUTS ARE TOO TIGHT CAUSING THE ROTORS TO BOW, THUS VIBRATE WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!

:D LMAO yea I find it funny when I read comment like this.
Most common is, "rotor warpage". It is near impossible to cause any fluctuation in a rotor. To come even close you'd have to travel at F1 or NASCAR speeds to get them glowing hot, then stop. Leaving the brakes on to let the pads bake into the metal.

Rob Pruijt 08-04-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EuroRash (Post 2985681)
:D LMAO yea I find it funny when I read comment like this.
Most common is, "rotor warpage". It is near impossible to cause any fluctuation in a rotor. To come even close you'd have to travel at F1 or NASCAR speeds to get them glowing hot, then stop. Leaving the brakes on to let the pads bake into the metal.

Warped rotors are very common in Europe

Getting brakes glowing hot is unfortunately easy, no need for F1 speeds, a mountain and a lot of hairpins will do. Even start and stop traffic downhill or emergency stop on the autobahn can warp your rotors. It is worse there is water on the road.

Some rotors are warped when new, even good brands, I always check them first.

One thing to check before replacing the rotors is the surface of the hub, even a little dirt can get the rotors out of alignment.

Rob

EuroRash 08-05-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2985879)
Warped rotors are very common in Europe

Getting brakes glowing hot is unfortunately easy, no need for F1 speeds, a mountain and a lot of hairpins will do. Even start and stop traffic downhill or emergency stop on the autobahn can warp your rotors. It is worse there is water on the road.

Some rotors are warped when new, even good brands, I always check them first.

One thing to check before replacing the rotors is the surface of the hub, even a little dirt can get the rotors out of alignment.

Rob

-Warped- Brake Disc and Other Myths

Excerpt from link:
"...in more than 40 years of professional racing, including the Shelby/Ford GT 40s – one of the most intense brake development program in history - I have never seen a warped brake disc."

Rob Pruijt 08-05-2012 12:19 PM

An other place to avoid

Rob

EuroRash 08-05-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Pruijt (Post 2986275)
An other place to avoid

Rob

What? The site or GT40s? :D

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sa...,r:3,s:0,i:151

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAnlMNvK8Y


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