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280EZRider 03-24-2011 07:32 PM

Alternator Upgrade
 
I'm posting this here too just in case there are no electricians lurking about over on vintage.

Will installing a 65A regulator on a W123 55A alternator increase the amperage output, or does the alternator itself need to be changed to gain the increase?

Edward Wyatt 03-24-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 280EZRider (Post 2686582)
I'm posting this here too just in case there are no electricians lurking about over on vintage.

Will installing a 65A regulator on a W123 55A alternator increase the amperage output, or does the alternator itself need to be changed to gain the increase?

I'm pretty sure the stator and rotor would have to be changed to make it pump out mare amps.

Are you having issues with the stock unit?

280EZRider 03-24-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Wyatt (Post 2686587)
I'm pretty sure the stator and rotor would have to be changed to make it pump out mare amps.

Are you having issues with the stock unit?

None at all. It's just that I have noticed that regulators for sale state for 65a alternators even though they are the same regulators that go on the older models. Apparently the rear of the armature is the same diameter on the 55a and 65a alternators.

Edward Wyatt 03-24-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 280EZRider (Post 2686591)
None at all. It's just that I have noticed that regulators for sale state for 65a alternators even though they are the same regulators that go on the older models. Apparently the rear of the armature is the same diameter on the 55a and 65a alternators.

I think you are right about the armature.

JohnM. 03-24-2011 09:42 PM

I'm not an electrician, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. A voltage regulator is supposed to maintain a constant voltage level for the design of the alterntor, there is no way it could "increase" the output, I don't think. Or everyone would be swapping regulators instead of entirely new alternators.

samiam44 03-25-2011 06:53 PM

throw a newer one on there..

110-143 amp or the 150 amp up to 2000 or 2001. Not a big deal...

mak 03-28-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnM. (Post 2686664)
I'm not an electrician, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. A voltage regulator is supposed to maintain a constant voltage level for the design of the alterntor, there is no way it could "increase" the output, I don't think. Or everyone would be swapping regulators instead of entirely new alternators.

very correct . the regulator simply maintains the voltage at around 14V and cuts of when the battery reaches 14V ,a Full charg condition.
A faulty regulator may not achieve full charging voltage or it may overcharge and blow the OVP fuse.

Hit Man X 03-28-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by samiam44 (Post 2687224)
throw a newer one on there..

110-143 amp or the 150 amp up to 2000 or 2001. Not a big deal...



M110s use pretty different brackets (v-belts) than what the 110-143A units do.

mlozzi200478 04-03-2011 11:59 PM

if you run a battery down till its dead then jump start the battery can this cause damage to the regulater on the alternator causing it to drop volts to 12.65 under a load,i just installed a new raman bosch alt and it appears its defective i wonder if a new regulator would help,any ideas?

280EZRider 04-04-2011 12:09 AM

A rebuilt alternator is already going to have a new regulator/brushes - or it should have if the rebuilder has even an ounce of decency - so I doubt that putting on another alternator will help, unless you ran down the battery with the new alternator.

mlozzi200478 04-04-2011 12:14 AM

you mean replacing the regulator wont help,yeah its a fully refurbished factory 65axl alt with all new everything,but it just went defective only putting out 12.65 v under a load,i wasnt sure if maybe the regulator was defective,id much rather replace a regulator than the alternator again,i had to replace this alt with the belt still on tight ,took me 3 hours,i was not able to figure out how to loosen up the upper bolt to pivot the tensioner,i was able to loosen up the lower bolt/rod that goes to the tensioner thats it,i couldnt get a socket or attachment to fit the upper bolt in the bracket.

280EZRider 04-04-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mlozzi200478 (Post 2692376)
you mean replacing the regulator wont help,yeah its a fully refurbished factory 65axl alt with all new everything,but it just went defective only putting out 12.65 v under a load,i wasnt sure if maybe the regulator was defective,id much rather replace a regulator than the alternator again,i had to replace this alt with the belt still on tight ,took me 3 hours,i was not able to figure out how to loosen up the upper bolt to pivot the tensioner,i was able to loosen up the lower bolt/rod that goes to the tensioner thats it,i couldnt get a socket or attachment to fit the upper bolt in the bracket.

Where are you connecting your meter to measure the load?

mlozzi200478 04-07-2011 01:23 AM

i had the meter on the top of the pos and neg posts on the battery.


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