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190 2.6 5 Speed Transmission Info?
There is a 1989 190E 2.6 with a 5 speed near me...that is going to the crusher. So I might part it out and get a free transmission swap out of it.
Any info on the transmission used in the 190E 2.6? I've never seen a 5 speed 190E. The Evo 2.3-16 being the obvious exception, but that is the Getrag with the dogleg reverse. Is this basically the same 5 speed that was offered for a year or two in the 300E (not dogleg)? Any specific gearing info? How will it mate with my 2.87 differential? I don't want the car to turn into a complete pig afterwards. I already know how to drive it fast with an automatic. ![]()
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http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-RESIZED-1.jpg 1991 300E - 212K and rising fast... |
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OK. Found some auto gearing numbers that look to be right for what I know my RPMs to be at 80mph. The manual ratio I am not sure is correct for the 190E transmission. I found the gearing for the 300E 5 Spd, from the "Ritter Bible".
My 300E should have this gearing right now: 1st - 3.87 2nd - 2.24 3rd - 1.44 4th - 1 The 300E 5 Speed from Bible: 1st - 3.856 2nd - 2.183 3rd - 1.376 4th - 1 5th - 0.799 That's pretty damn close to what I have now for 1-3. If the 190E box is the same....my calculator tells me at 80mph in 5th gear, I'd be going 2500rpm. Sign me up now if that's the case. ![]()
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http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-RESIZED-1.jpg 1991 300E - 212K and rising fast... |
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That should be very close. I remember my 86 300E stick was 2k rpms at 60mph, which would be 2.5k at 75mph, but it's 3.07 rear axle, not 2.87.
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I'll try and check mine exactly what the revs are, I think it's a touch higher than what you calculated.
Don't forget the clutch master, and the brake resovour (sp) for the feed. M103 5 speed is the only way to fly ![]()
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5 speed '91 190E 2.6 320,000 mi. (new car, fast, smooth as silk six, couldn't find any more Peugeots) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.5l Turbo Diesel 266,000 mi. (old car, fast for a diesel, had 2 others) 5 speed '01 Jetta V6 (new wifes car, pretty quick) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.2l Turbo Gas 197,000 mi. (wifes car, faster, sadly gone just short of 200k ) 5 speed '83 Yamaha 750 Maxim 14,000 mi. (fastest) 0 speed 4' x 8' 1800 lb Harbor Freight utility trailer (only as fast as what's pulling it) |
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Don't spend a lot of time swapping the brake reservoir, just snip off the sealed end of the plugged outlet.
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Hanno '79 6.9 Sold (after 27 years) '83 280SL, 5 spd. '94 E320 Sdn. 5 spd conversion '02 E320 Sdn.(on loan to mom!) '87 300E (5 spd. conversion) Sold '05 E500 Wagon |
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190e 2.6 5 speed is lots of fun.
80 in 5th is more like 3k. What color interior does it have? Mine is mushroom and I need a clip for the passenger visor left side and some other plastic bits and the guts for the passenger side rear window lift...how are the interior door panels?
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95 E300D gave away 77 300D, 227k, station car 83 300CD 370k, body gone away to the rust gods, engine is in a Yota pickup, going strong 89 190E 2.6- 335k, no more 79 VW FI Bus- 154k summer driver 59 VW Beetle ragtop- 175k 12 VW Jetta- 250k 74 MG Midget-78k |
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Be sure to also get the pedal box, front half of drive shaft, flywheel and clutch pipe. The 5 speed has a 1:1 4th gear just like the auto and a 0.8:1 overdrive 5th. The engine will be turning 20% slower on the freeway given that u keep the same diff. The 5 spd is identical betwen W124 and W201. The clutch pedal box will also bolt right in. Not sure about drive shaft length.
Good luck
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I'm buying the entire car.
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http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-RESIZED-1.jpg 1991 300E - 212K and rising fast... |
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You will like the car much more with the std trans installed!
You might want to swap differentials as well.
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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lucky dog. Congratulations
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1989 300ce 129k ( facelifted front,updated tail lights, lowered suspension,bilstein sports, lorinser front spoiler, MOMO steering wheel, remus exhaust,stainless steel brake lines). (Gone) 1997 s320 154k (what a ride). Sold with 179k miles. Replaced with Hyundai Equus 1994 e320 Cabriolet 108k ![]() 1972 280se 4.5 153k Owned for 12 yrs, sorry I sold it [/SIGPIC] |
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