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Brian, I kinda interpreted his post as saying that he transferred the 1st-gear mechanism from the previous 420 car to the later 300SE? Dunno.
I had heard of that electrical "trick" a few years back, but I assumed it actually let the car begin to start in 2nd, then quickly bumped down into 1st. I checked the service books to see if I could find a reference to a 300 W126 with a taller gear, didn't see one. That harsh 1-2 shift is really only objectionable on the first shift or two of the day, so certainly not a show-stopper. Might could be virtually minimized by just a conditioned right foot when starting out stone-cold. but, there are plenty of ways to modify shifting force pretty easily. I had a slightly slow 2-3 and a slightly firm 3-4, so i used a K2 valve kit, and then tweaked the Bowden cable and the modulator to obtain the shift balance I wanted. On a bright note: a good friend of my son is now a painter at a local MB dealer. We are getting the gray bumpers and side cladding repainted on 'Ol Pearl next week. The sun had faded/peeled the clearcoat a bit. She should look flawless again. The body paint is original artic white (with no clearcoat) and still looks new after 21 years of daily driving. Press on, DG |
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That trick simply engages the kickdown solenoid until the vehicle reaches about 7 mph............then it releases it. It works fine for the V8's. I'd still prefer a modified valve body to do it hydraulically, if I can. The 2.47 diff is currently in the trunk of the SD..............half way back to Blue Point!!! Also got the complete cluster so I can use the speedo from the 420 as well. It appears that I'll have the diff installed well before the valve body gets modified, so I can do some first gear start experiments manually and check out the harshness of the 1-2. |
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Easy test: wire up another switch to the wires going to the kickdown switch, actuate it by hand, and see if you can move off in 1st gear...
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Yep...........but, if Satish has some inside dope...........I could save the time to rig the test.
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While you've got all these guy's ears you should ask them if there's a way to force a 722.3 that normally starts in 1st to start in 2nd
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They did put four gears in the thing for a reason, you know........... |
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Hopefully I got a more useful question then above, On the OT, You mind asking how to get the transmission to shift all gears at WOT at above 4500 RPMs. For a performance related project, the standard 1-2 shift is too short for my taste. The standard 3-4 shifts are great at around 4500. Tweaking the bowden cable doesn't do it for all gears. .
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You do realize that the maximum hp for the thing is at 4400..........??? I get scared when I push the 617 up to 4000.............. |
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In any event 1-2 and 2-3 shifts still doesn't reach 4400. I would love for it to do so. .
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Or you're going to have to start replacing the tired springs in the valve body if the Bowden cable doesn't provide sufficient adjustment. There are no other options as far as I am aware. |
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I have the superior shift kit installed on the K1 and K2. B1 of the kit softens the shifts, which is not what I am looking for. The TV pressure control valve spring in the kit eliminates the stacked shifts at all points. Which is not a problem here.. Or is it? But I don't think it's a stacked shift, because all the 722.3 do it. Oh by the way, my 2-3 shifts at 4400 at WOT, so I'm really focusing on 1-2. . .
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I haven't been inside one yet........so take it for what it's worth........ But, I'm making the assumption that you'll need a stiffer spring to resist the governor pressure that is controlling the 1-2 shift. |
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My friend's F350 can start in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd -J
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follow carefully: Ease into the pedal..........very gradually..........and you won't spin the tires........even on snow. |
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