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mlozzi200478 10-22-2011 08:23 PM

all the hidden engineering marvels of mercedes
 
hey guys when people buy these old benz's like 86-95 do they ever stop to think of all the hidden things going on under the hood of a benz, such as the recirculating pump for heat,the heating coiled wires around the windshield fluid lines to prevent lines from freezing, the bladder at lower portion of window to prevent ice build up on wiper blade,the heated coil inside wiper fluid res.the fact that the pass outside mirror is power and the drivers side is manual,do they ever stop to think wow thats really amazing that they thought of all this stuff,also thats part of why my car is so expensive? also,is this stuff worth keeping maintained,i noticed on my car allot of this stuff is so old and brittle it stopped working, i guess 22 years will do that.

mbzman 10-22-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mlozzi200478 (Post 2814742)
hey guys when people buy these old benz's like 86-95 do they ever stop to think of all the hidden things going on under the hood of a benz, such as the recirculating pump for heat,the heating coiled wires around the windshield fluid lines to prevent lines from freezing, the bladder at lower portion of window to prevent ice build up on wiper blade,the heated coil inside wiper fluid res.the fact that the pass outside mirror is power and the drivers side is manual,do they ever stop to think wow thats really amazing that they thought of all this stuff,also thats part of why my car is so expensive? also,is this stuff worth keeping maintained,i noticed on my car allot of this stuff is so old and brittle it stopped working, i guess 22 years will do that.


Yes, they were built to a standard and not a cost set forward by a bean counter.

mlozzi200478 10-22-2011 09:57 PM

Yes when everything is functioning they operate like a precision swiss watch, true engineered works of art

LandYaghtLover 10-22-2011 10:23 PM

Bladder to prevent freezing? What models had that one?

mlozzi200478 10-22-2011 10:35 PM

mine has it for sure 1989 300ce,im not sure how many models have it,there is a bladder that fills up with heated engine coolant when u start the engine you can sometimes hear a girgling sound around the dash area,this is the bladder filling up with warm engine coolant so that it will melt any accumulated ice along bottom of windshield and wiper.its truely another reason why mercedes are one of the finest engineered machines on the road.i think most of the 85-95 e classes have it.

compress ignite 10-22-2011 10:36 PM

Bladder of ReCirculating Coolant @ Windshield
 
LYL,

Look at the coolant setup of your W126!

W126

mbzman 10-22-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mlozzi200478 (Post 2814827)
mine has it for sure 1989 300ce,im not sure how many models have it,there is a bladder that fills up with heated engine coolant when u start the engine you can sometimes hear a girgling sound around the dash area,this is the bladder filling up with warm engine coolant so that it will melt any accumulated ice along bottom of windshield and wiper.its truely another reason why mercedes are one of the finest engineered machines on the road.i think most of the 85-95 e classes have it.

I have never seen this setup before. Can you post a picture?

sptt 10-22-2011 11:48 PM

I agree. When working, their engineering concepts are beyond the day of their time in foreward thinking and practicality. Question I have now, is, are they still like that with their newer cars or is it now status quo match with everyone else? Hyundai is now a viscous competitor? BMW?

engatwork 10-23-2011 08:36 AM

I recently changed out an alternator on a 07 S550 and it was straight forward as all get out. I will say the computer stuff makes diagnostics ALOT easier nowadays.

Edit - after thinking about it a little the alternator was easier to change out than say a 85 300D in my opinion.

compu_85 10-23-2011 11:33 AM

The W126 has the windshield glass heater too. You can't see it easily, but it connects to that tangle of coolant lines between the firewalls.

I also like how the heater blows warm air into the door cars, which turns the doors into gentle radiators. You get a nice soft even heating of the cabin. And how the rain gutters along the windshield prevent splashes from getting onto the side windows. And how the gutters along the edges of the side mirrors keep their glass clean. And how the rear defroster wires are so fine you can't see them.

But a few things still baffle me... like the automatic defrost when you first start the car. That would be great if the evaporator was already cold, but when you first start it's not and it ends up blowing warm moist air onto the glass. Or how they could put a wimpy 70 amp alternator on a car with so many electrical gizmos.

-J

kchemers 10-23-2011 12:01 PM

Marvel
 
Have an 89 300TE 225000 miles everyday driver, everything works, do my own maintenance, and nothing comes close to the comfort at 90mph cruising the hwy. getting 22 miles to the gallon and driving a tank

ILUVMILS 10-24-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sptt (Post 2814845)
...Question I have now, is, are they still like that with their newer cars....

Yes. ;)

LandYaghtLover 10-24-2011 03:20 PM

Learned something new! When I read bladder, I was thinking of something more external. Like on aircraft that have those anti-icing things that inflate. So its on the inside at the base of the windshield? I assume that is why there is such a huge area masked off at the bottom.

pawoSD 10-24-2011 07:51 PM

there is no "bladder", the gurgling sound is the climate control switchover valve, common issue on the w124. The base of the windshield is heated by a metal assembly with a pipe of coolant running through it.

glenmore 10-26-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2815873)
t the gurgling sound is the climate control switchover valve, common issue on the w124.


Is there any consequence to this gurgling?

Thanks,

glenmore
1991 300CE


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