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handyjay 03-26-2012 12:20 PM

Serpentine Belt Tension 300E
 
I just replaced my alternator and serpentine belt. I am not sure if I have the tension set correctly. The indicator is at the low end of the ramp. It does not move when I tighten the adjusting nut. The tensioner does not appear to be frozen as it moves when I push or pull on the belt. The belt just doesn't seem as tight as it should be as I see it flutter on idle between the longer distances between pulley's. This is a 1991 300E 4matic. Thanks for any and all help.

JohnM. 03-26-2012 03:44 PM

If the adjusting rod does not re-tension the belt, I'd say the tensioner is bad. It's a very poor design for longevity. I've done the job 3 times on my 300E in 80,000mi of owning it.

handyjay 03-26-2012 05:29 PM

Is there any way to tell for sure if the tensioner is bad? They are a bit expensive. I read on another forum that if the indicator is all the way to the high side of the ramp that the tensioner is bad. Does this make sense?

JohnM. 03-26-2012 05:47 PM

These tensioners are purely mechanical in nature. The adjusting rod simply rotates a collar on the tensioner to tighten the belt. If the adjusting rod is not tightening the belt, it's bad. :)

Did you loosen the big 19mm holding the tensioner in-place before you loosened the adjusting rod?

handyjay 03-26-2012 05:54 PM

Will I thought I loosened the right nut but it is a 13mm the same and the adjusting rod. Now I will go back and recheck. Thanks for the info.

engatwork 03-26-2012 06:02 PM

Yea, look for the large fastener in the center of the pivot point for the tensioner. Follow the torque specs for it when you tighten it up.

I think the 95 E300 has the most well designed tensioner but that is just me:).

handyjay 03-26-2012 06:15 PM

JohnM, I feel like a dunce. I could not see the 19mm until I took off the fan shroud. All is well. Many thanks.

JohnM. 03-26-2012 06:18 PM

If you didn't undo the big 19mm first, before loosening the belt, you've more than likely trashed the tensioner off the gate. But like I said these M103 tensioners will go bad if you look at them wrong.....so......;)

handyjay 03-26-2012 07:28 PM

So I thought I was loosening the tensioner by loosening the rod nut. Obviously that was not the case. I was able to remove and replace the belt by rotating the alternator. So when I tighten the rod nut nothing was happening to change the tension. With the 19mm loosened I was able to increase the tension. So I hope it is OK. Thanks for the help.

JohnM. 03-26-2012 07:35 PM

Sounds like you got lucky! Glad you figured it out.

handyjay 03-26-2012 07:51 PM

JohnM, it was with your help. Thanks again.

Ivanerrol 03-26-2012 09:01 PM

Lucky this didn't happen to your tensioner adjusting rod.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2567/3...673_z.jpg?zz=1
Here's am image of the 19mm bolt location
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3395/3...885_z.jpg?zz=1

Unfortunately the tensioners have a habit of failing after being disturbed after long tenure.
Just keep an eye on the tension on your serpentine belt.

Adler 03-26-2012 10:34 PM

bad tensioner
 
Most likely a bad tensioner . I replaced two in a very short span ,The Lemforder one is holding up fine,the URO/China one did not.
I replaced the tensioner adjusting bolt and shock-absorber as well to be sure all was correct.
As many will vouch the tensioner is a very weak point .
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glenmore 03-27-2012 02:52 AM

This will tell you if a prospective tensioner is bad. Imagine two parallel lines off the flats of the tensioner bushing, where the tensioner rod attaches (flats shown in pic above). The back of the bolt hole for the belt pulley should be in the middle of the two lines.

hs_300e 03-27-2012 01:38 PM

If you tightened the tensioner after replacing the belt, you most likely have over tensioned the belt. When that happens, one of the other bearings fail - most likely the alternator bearing. I destroyed two before I realized that tightening a failed tensioner was causing it. Best to just replace the tensioner. Check the service manual under belt tensioner replacement and it gives instructions to check if a tensioner is good or bad.


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