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pawoSD 04-23-2012 10:34 PM

In the 420 when you click it over to the right you can hear the solenoid engage the whole time unless you click back out, if you take off quickly it will stay in first a while, if you keep the shifter engaged over to the right it will take 1st to redline....not sure if it will just stay there or if it will shift on its own....never tried it, don't intend to either. :eek: Highest I've gone with it in that slot is about 4500rpm....and it shifted to 2nd as soon as I released it.

JamesDean 04-24-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryvz (Post 2925646)
No need to reinvent the wheel ...

BergWerks made these for the W126 and the W124 years ago, I'd say they went out of production about 2005 or 2006. One in a blue moon, you can find them on eBay. But they are EXPENSIVE.

There is a commercial product available now for the W126 that does this, available at Mercedes-benz V8 V12 w126 SE SEC SEL,R129,R107 SL,w124 500E,400E,w116,w140 SEL CL First gear start module tuning transmission

More info here:

Anyone know this First Gear Start module...?

First Gear Start Module

Welcome to Berg Werks!

Cheers,
Gerry

$250 is a bit more than I was going to charge for the device I came up with and that device does a bit more than mine is going to.

My original intent with this was to build it for Hit Man X in exchange for some parts.

I suppose I could come up with an interface for setting the shift speed as well. That's not that difficult at all considering the controller has a USB interface. At that a 0-60 time device would be easy too but largely not useful for core functionality.

As 97 SL320 mentioned my biggest issues so far are:
1) investigating solenoid life and duty cycle.etc.
2) filtering, attenuating speedometer input signal for the controller.

Function List
-First Gear Downshift/Up-shift at Preset/User Determined Speed
-Disable Switch to resume second gear starting
- ?

Solid Snake 04-24-2012 01:27 PM

I have a euro V8 trans computer for use with the E/S switch that in effect does exactly what you're intending to do-- it shifts at exactly 7 mph without a spirited push of the pedal form a stand still. I dunno if it's easier to start from scratch or check out the innards of an older trans 'computer'. Any euro V8 W126 should have it.

gerryvz 04-24-2012 04:42 PM

You could always reverse-engineer the PCB on a BergWerks unit, if you could get your hands on one ... ;)

pmckechnie 04-24-2012 06:30 PM

Back in 2008, I posted about doing this on my 500SEL. Do an advanced search on my name 'pmckechnie' and 'first gear start' and and you should be able to fine it. This is using a controller from a 500SEL and 1 wire and 1 switch. It gives switchable first gear start for almost nothing. Look and see if it helps. By the way, It still works great after 4 years.

Paul

Hit Man X 04-25-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryvz (Post 2925646)
No need to reinvent the wheel ...

BergWerks made these for the W126 and the W124 years ago, I'd say they went out of production about 2005 or 2006. One in a blue moon, you can find them on eBay. But they are EXPENSIVE.

There is a commercial product available now for the W126 that does this, available at Mercedes-benz V8 V12 w126 SE SEC SEL,R129,R107 SL,w124 500E,400E,w116,w140 SEL CL First gear start module tuning transmission

More info here:

Anyone know this First Gear Start module...?

First Gear Start Module

Welcome to Berg Werks!

Cheers,
Gerry



Well since we were looking into this for the I6 cars AND the component cost is about $30, it makes some since in this instance to 'reinvent the wheel'.



I have the ECE V8 box around my house somewhere if you want it Kris. I think it is only about five wires. I have no clue why no one built a kit for the I6 cars. Hell, maybe it is not possible or no one felt there was a market.



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