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SchnellSchweitz 11-28-2012 08:14 PM

Odd coolant leak
 
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I've attached a snapshot of my leak. As you can see, it's coming from over my steering box.

Any ideas on where it's coming from?:confused:

Car:
1991 300CE

duxthe1 11-28-2012 08:58 PM

The o-rings for the oil cooler leak coolant in that general area. NOT a fun job to replace and are typically done with the water pump.

SchnellSchweitz 11-29-2012 12:02 AM

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Thanks Duxthe1,

This is going to sound like a "noob" question, because I am one, but does the oil cooler have coolant hoses attached to it? I thought only oil passed through oil cooler.

I'm leaking coolant just to the outside of the steering box, not oil.

I found a pic of what I think is a oil cooler, but unsure. If this is an oil cooler, where would the o-rings go on these hoses?

Thanks again...:cool:

duxthe1 11-29-2012 01:49 PM

That is the oil cooler. The inboard hole will have a pipe carrying coolant, which is where the o-ring will leak.

FWIW, there are two types of oil coolers. Some route oil into a radiator and air will remove the heat directly. Others use coolant to remove heat from the oil, which is the type you have.

Air&Road 11-30-2012 08:18 AM

Is there any coolant along the pan rail on that side of the engine?

SchnellSchweitz 11-30-2012 02:05 PM

No coolant along pan rail. The highest point I can find leaking coolant is along the starter bracket. At the moment, the coolant has stopped leaking. Not sure why, but it makes it hard to find a leak at the moment.

So far, I have not been able to find the oil cooler that's attached to the oil filter. I have one of those bore scopes and I've looked all around the base of the oil cooler and I don't see it or the "V" hose and metal hose with the O-ring.

It was leaking a drop every 3 seconds, but now it seems to have stopped.

Thanks for your direction.

sloride 11-30-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SchnellSchweitz (Post 3058564)
No coolant along pan rail. The highest point I can find leaking coolant is along the starter bracket. At the moment, the coolant has stopped leaking. Not sure why, but it makes it hard to find a leak at the moment.

It was leaking a drop every 3 seconds, but now it seems to have stopped.

Thanks for your direction.

I am not trying to be funny but are you sure you are not out of coolant!

SchnellSchweitz 11-30-2012 03:20 PM

No problem... I do appreciate the help. I am sure I'm not out of coolant. In fact I just added more to the expansion tank and it still had some in it before I had to add.

SchnellSchweitz 12-01-2012 05:57 PM

The coolant is leaking again
 
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I'm still inconclusive on my coolant leak search, but I took some photos and found some more info to research.

This appears to be a diagram of the oil filter cooler in question:

http://mb.ilcats.ru/part/class/1/ccode/F/cat/520/type/104/subtype/980/group/20/subgr//vers//imgno/2

I have a few images I took of the hoses with my bore scope. They're not great, but they show the pipes in question - I believe:confused:

I'm not too sure about the metal hoses in the last image. Does one of those carry coolant?

In any case, I have felt around all of these hoses and they all appear dry. However the "V" hose has dried coolant around the elbow. Still, it's pretty dry. Perhaps the leak is underneath - where I can't reach.

Does anyone know if removing the air filter would provide the necessary access to these hoses, or am I wasting time because the manifold also needs removal?

Thanks again:o

duxthe1 12-01-2012 06:44 PM

None of those images are even close to the oil cooler. It is tucked away tight under the intake manifold, starting about 2/3rds of the way back. Even removing the intake still wont allow you to remove the pipe without also removing the water pump.

SchnellSchweitz 12-02-2012 05:03 PM

I found it!
 
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I'm pretty sure my pic shows the o-ring hard line that goes into the oil filter cooler.:confused: The picture is not the greatest, but hopefully someone will be able to identify it by looks.

Anyway, after studying the diagram I posted above I was wondering if anyone has tried removing the hard line by only removing the water pump and not the manifold. It seems like it may be possible to undo the screw that holds the hardline to the manifold, but I'm unsure.

Anyone have any ideas if this is possible?:rolleyes:

Thanks again for the tips. They have been very helpful.

Eric J.


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