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inkblotz 04-07-2013 07:54 AM

primary pump
 
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Reviewing the various documents to replace the primary pump.

My understanding is I must remove the front cover #8 to access the bolts #11 that hold the pump to the front cover correct?
So when I do this I should purchase and replace the #1 and #2 seals.

Is this as deep as I need to go with the tranny on the bench?

Will I need anything else here?

inkblotz 04-07-2013 08:02 AM

Never mind I reread the excellent post by WHunter and understand the procedure.

Thanks

inkblotz 04-07-2013 12:54 PM

Could the torque converter be at fault?

ps2cho 04-07-2013 02:04 PM

Actually, instead of pulling the cooler lines first, just start the car get under and see if the torque converter is even spinning....

inkblotz 04-07-2013 02:51 PM

The torque converter is attached to the flywheel. It will be moving at the speed of the engine.

97 SL320 04-07-2013 09:44 PM

Diving in and randomly changing parts is a bad idea. You need to do a pressure test.

inkblotz 04-07-2013 10:13 PM

Agreed.

I did remove the top trans cooler line, started the engine, moved the shift selector through the gate. No fluid, not a drop came out of the cooler line hose.

Mark

Stretch 04-08-2013 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320 (Post 3127201)
Diving in and randomly changing parts is a bad idea. You need to do a pressure test.

X2

Pressure test if you have the technology

ps2cho 04-08-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inkblotz (Post 3127050)
The torque converter is attached to the flywheel. It will be moving at the speed of the engine.

Ya...I was just wondering if the flywheel bent somehow and got the TC stuck or the bolts sheered off however very unlikely...just was a quick and easy look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inkblotz (Post 3127213)
Agreed.

I did remove the top trans cooler line, started the engine, moved the shift selector through the gate. No fluid, not a drop came out of the cooler line hose.

Mark

Pump failure confirmed. It should fire out of there like no other regardless of shift selection.

Plan the removal! :)

inkblotz 04-08-2013 02:41 PM

Removal scheduled for tomorrow morning.

Mark

inkblotz 04-12-2013 09:55 PM

OK Got the G back and sure enough the primary pump was kaput. They pulled the tranny replaced the pump, all related seals and the pressure modulator (per my request). It now runs amazingly well!

Thanks for all the help.

Mark

ps2cho 04-13-2013 12:30 AM

Glad to hear :)

Zulfiqar 04-13-2013 01:14 AM

when the engine is shutoff half of the torque converter drains back to the pan due to gravity, if the pump is not working or the flexplate has broken or the bolts holding the torque converter have sheared off (they are mandatory to renew every time they are disturbed) the transmission will not work as the main pump doesnt work.

You will also see a high level on the dipstick. To test follow was ps2cho said, undo a cooler line and see if you get any fluid pumping from it as soon as the engine starts.

Prodigal 10-28-2017 12:11 AM

Thank you
 
I just wanted to post a big thank you to the contributors of this forum. I had this exact problem on my 94 e 320. I ordered a new flange from the dealer and am keeping my fingers crossed that the output shaft is ok. Thanks again:) for saving me an expensive trip to the transmission shop!

puzzler 10-29-2017 03:02 AM

I have no grasp of the transmission systems but from expereince know that when overfilled the trans loses forward traction and will work in reverse. (95 E320) and lowering the fluid does not correct the overfill. It will still keep slipping..One must drain the fluid and then add back to the full level slowly with it running and parked. Then you are good again.. Very curious why if anyone cares to explain..


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