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DAVECAD2.0 05-13-2013 03:03 PM

TACHOMETER
 
The tach on my '91 420SEL stopped working. Checked for loose connections on the gauge. What sensor/sendor does this work on and where is it located. I guessing that's the problem.
Thanks, Dave

DAVECAD2.0 05-15-2013 10:08 AM

TACHOMETER
 
Blank stares. Slacked jaws. I'm hearing crickets people.
Anybody?

Ndralle 05-15-2013 07:31 PM

if its like the diesels there should be a little "trash can" looking plug on the wheel well that commonly comes loose.

check this url. www (dot) benz world (dot) org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1597328-w123-300td-tachometer-problem.html

i chopped up the url a little. im not sure if im supposed to post links to other sites.

pmckechnie 05-15-2013 07:59 PM

On my 84 500SEL the tach signal comes from the ignition module at the left front of the engine compartment. It is called the TD signal. If the fuel pump relay doesn't see this signal, the car wont run.
I don't know but I believe the Generation 2 gas cars are the same. Also, on the Gen 2 gas cars, the A/C won't work if it doesn't see the TD signal.
Sorry I can't be more specific.

Paul

JamesDean 05-16-2013 11:33 AM

The tach signal on the later cars (I believe) is sourced from the EZL module. It is accessible at the X11 connector on the driver's fender.

Looks like its on pin 1, based on this information.
BOSCH KE3-JETRONIC MIXTURE ADJUSTMENT

If you have signal there then the problem is upstream. Could be failed capacitors in the tachometer.

Ndralle 05-18-2013 03:35 AM

It sounds like it is different from the diesels. Well, we got this thread movin'.

germanv8 05-20-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmckechnie (Post 3146902)
On my 84 500SEL the tach signal comes from the ignition module at the left front of the engine compartment. It is called the TD signal. If the fuel pump relay doesn't see this signal, the car wont run.
I don't know but I believe the Generation 2 gas cars are the same. Also, on the Gen 2 gas cars, the A/C won't work if it doesn't see the TD signal.
Sorry I can't be more specific.

Paul

On my 85 500SE, I've been having trouble with the heat on all the time, then the AC stopped working, and after the shop switched out the AC regulator, the ACs working but the tach stopped working and the heat is still flowing all the time. Do you think the AC regulator swap and the tach now not working are related?

JamesDean 05-20-2013 11:51 AM

The tachometer signal does pass through the AC relay I believe. This is so that the AC relay can kick off the ac compressor at certain speeds.

DAVECAD2.0 05-20-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmckechnie (Post 3146902)
On my 84 500SEL the tach signal comes from the ignition module at the left front of the engine compartment. It is called the TD signal. If the fuel pump relay doesn't see this signal, the car wont run.
I don't know but I believe the Generation 2 gas cars are the same. Also, on the Gen 2 gas cars, the A/C won't work if it doesn't see the TD signal.
Sorry I can't be more specific.

Paul

Thanks, but no fuel or A/C problems.

DAVECAD2.0 05-20-2013 04:17 PM

No tach
 
Thanks all. I will check the connections at X11. And try to source a different tach.

germanv8 05-20-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDean (Post 3149037)
The tachometer signal does pass through the AC relay I believe. This is so that the AC relay can kick off the ac compressor at certain speeds.

Thanks! Appreciate the help!


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