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DIFFERENCES W123 between diesel vs. gassers
This is a serious question, so no debates please.
Looking at a coupe, but it's a gasser Are there any differences in the bodies between a W123 diesel coupe vs. W123 gasser coupe ? I am NOT looking into converting it to a diesel. I appreciate the wiring harness is different and I would probably need to swap out the steering column or at least the upper half. My question pertains to the bodies and suspension: Are they the same? So, if I had a bunch of extra parts, would they exchange right in without issues, e.g., differential, front suspension parts, maintenance items, et cet. Thanks in advance, |
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As for differences - most of them will be subtle things like Front springs different for a different engine weight Obviously engine maintenance parts won't swap If you're considering a fuel injection petrol engine then there's loads of electrical stuff a diesel owner won't have seen before There will be a fuel pump at the back near to the fuel tank which might be of a smaller size than a diesel (often depends on petrol engine size) No vacuum pump on a petrol engine so the vacuum system is slightly different - central locking run by an extra electric pump for example (on my W201) Wiring will be different but only up to a point - I bet things like electric window (stuff away from the engine) will more or less be the same. Differential ratio will suit the engine so will probably be different (revs higher for petrol) - speedometer will suit differential - tachometer reaches a higher number too! At a guess I'd say (excluding the engines) the cars will be about 90% the same. (There's a greater variation between the W124 diesels and the petrol engines - variation within the petrol group too - better brakes for V8 models etc => but this didn't happen for the W123)
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Stretch,
As for the body, chassis, are they identical ? I assumed they were ... |
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Judging by the couple of w123 gasser coupes I've looked at I agree with what stretch said. 90% the same. Front suspension parts I feel sure are exactly the same.
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I have owned both and other than the engine and fuel systems they are exactly the same. All of your suspension spares will be compatible but stuff like filters are different. Is the car a U.S. or Euro model?
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It's a Euro Model, unless someone did a conversion of that in the past, but I am guessing it's a Euro.
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You'll get different holes for the mounting of different "things" (Stuff that's been explained before); and there might be little irritating things such as a lack of a captive nut if you were changing transmissions or engines (Which I know you are NOT doing!) => for example when I went from 4 speed to 5 speed on my W201 I needed two extra nuts to hold on the four point fixing gearbox cross member as opposed to the two point fixing original 4 speed cross member.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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"No vacuum pump on a petrol engine so the vacuum system is slightly different - central locking run by an extra electric pump for example (on my W201)"
We had a 1973 280 sedan and its M110 engine had a vacuum pump. It was identical to those used on contemporary diesel engines and took the same re-build kit. Don
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