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1987300sdl 08-22-2015 07:13 PM

87 190D AC Problem
 
1987 190D 2.5 Non turbo with issues with the AC.
It comes on for a few seconds when I start the car, then it shuts off.
I Charged the AC with an AC machine a few months ago. So I am very confident that it is not the refrigerant, because it held a very good vacuum and when the AC does work, it is COLD.

I can wire the AC compressor directly to 12v, and the compressor will stay on, so I know the AC is working, but it seems that something keeps sending a signal to shut off the compressor.
I also found that I can unplug the relay (behind the battery) and plug it back in, and the AC will run for a few seconds, then shut off again. I replace the Relay with a known good one, but the symptoms are the same.
Also, the PO bypassed the switch on the low-side of the dryer many years ago.

I have searched this forum for similar issues, and found this one- http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/152859-c-diesel-problem.html

Before I tear into the dash, I was wondering if there are any other things I can check that would be simpler/easier.

duxthe1 08-23-2015 12:33 PM

Compressor speed sensor signal.

ah-kay 08-23-2015 12:33 PM

I don't have an answer for you but you can check this thread, post #9.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/366117-w124-stumped-climate-control-unit.html

It could be the evap temp sensor behind the driver's kick panel. Try to time the cut-off time to see whether it is the same or very consistent. Good luck.

1987300sdl 08-29-2015 03:30 PM

UPDATE-
I have noticed that the fuse in the fusebox get very hot. Every so often, it will blow, and I have to replace it. I can bypass everything by connecting a wire (with a 25 amp inline fuse) from the battery directly to the AC compressor. The compressor turns on, and gets cold, but the inline fuse will blow. I put a 30 amp fuse inline on the jumper wire, and it did not blow the fuse, but the wire did get very hot. I have got something that is drawing a lot of amps.
I am getting to the point where I dont know what to do next. any ideas?

lsmalley 08-29-2015 04:05 PM

First and foremost, disconnect that wire and stop increasing fuse AMPs ASAP. You're lucky you didn't cause a fire under the hood. You need to find out what's causing the short and fix it. Disconnect the a/c compressor until you figure out what's causing that fuse to blow otherwise anticipate an engine fire and a lot of melted wires needing to be replaced

1987300sdl 09-01-2015 03:56 PM

I had already unplugged the AC compressor prior to posing the question-to me that is a given.
Any ideas on how to trouble-shoot further?

duxthe1 09-01-2015 08:33 PM

Your compressor clutch is failing and when compressor rpm doesn't match engine rpm the relay shuts it down.

JimFreeh 09-02-2015 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duxthe1 (Post 3515062)
Your compressor clutch is failing and when compressor rpm doesn't match engine rpm the relay shuts it down.

The high amp draw for the clutch also suggests slipping.

Later MBs with a single serpentine belt have a speed sensor in the back of the compressor. If the engine and compressor rpms synch (not match), then the compressor stays on. If out of spec, the power to the clutch is removed. The initial start up comparison is bypassed when engaging the compressor because the will be a discrepancy between the rpms until the clutch stops slipping. That's why it engages initially, then cuts out.

Jim

1987300sdl 09-08-2015 12:12 AM

Thanks all!!

It turns out that it is slippage of the clutch, due to a front seal leak on the compressor.


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