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lizem100 10-30-2015 11:59 AM

S430 motor rattle under driver door
 
2001 S430 152K miles. There a rattle assoc c motor but not in engine compartment. It sounds outside the cabin under the drivers seat area.
Any thoughts?

ILUVMILS 10-30-2015 12:56 PM

Probably a bad 'cat.....

the D 10-30-2015 03:27 PM

If the sound changes with blipping the throttle the catalyst material in the rear converters is broken. The proper fix is to replace whichever pipe is causing the noise.

TylerH860 10-30-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVMILS (Post 3534191)
Probably a bad 'cat.....

Usually is. Sometimes you get lucky with a bad hangar or heat shield that can be peeled away though. Alot of catalytic converter rebuilders popping up due to exorbitant costs of replacement. Worth a google in your area.

torsionbar 10-30-2015 05:32 PM

rattle could be a heat shield that's fallen away from the body, and is rattling against the exhaust. i've had that happen before.

lizem 10-31-2015 03:39 PM

thanks
 
will try to look underneath soon. A bit wet here today
Any cat rebuilders in DFW area? What is a fair price? I want to be ready if needed

Ferdman 11-01-2015 07:02 AM

lizem, as I am sure you are aware there is nothing to see when you look under your S430, but you should be able to detect the source of the rattle. If it's the catalytic converter on the driver's side, recommend buying a new assembly from a MB dealer and installing it yourself. Should be a simple bolt-up if it's like our 1998 E320. There is an Oxygen sensor before and after the catalytic converter.

lizem 11-01-2015 11:16 PM

why OEM
 
I was going to look underneath to make sure nothing obvious was loose.
Is it known that OEM cats are clearly better than aftermarket? I am happy to use them if so.
I have called around and muffler shops seem to charge $180-250 for weld in varieties

mpolli 11-02-2015 12:50 AM

Good test for bad cat is hit it with a rubber mallet. You should be able to find the bad one. They are probably not all bad, just one.

the D 11-02-2015 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lizem (Post 3535161)
I was going to look underneath to make sure nothing obvious was loose.
Is it known that OEM cats are clearly better than aftermarket? I am happy to use them if so.
I have called around and muffler shops seem to charge $180-250 for weld in varieties

Like mpolli said above, if you can get under the car and tap the rear cats you should be able to determine which one(potentially both) is loose.

I'm a big advocate in using factory solutions over cheap solutions so my vote is for factory cats. and for factory parts in ~99% of scenarios actually. unless there is an aftermarket solution that is far and away better than factory and doesn't cost 10x more than factory

oldsinner111 11-02-2015 09:18 AM

my heat shield does that,I have to fix again.the hose clamps will only last a year.I need to weld it,but can't get under a car anymore.

Ferdman 11-02-2015 09:34 AM

lizem, being a purist I opted for the genuine MB assembly when our 1998 E320 had loose elements in the driver's side catalytic converter assembly. As I recall, there were actually 2 small catalytic converters in the assembly. Online the price for a new catalytic converter is over $500, so I would be skeptical of a muffler shop's quote of $250. I always feel that "typically you get what you pay for."

oldsinner111 11-02-2015 10:51 AM

with a V8 I'd go with the high flow cats.Factory stuff is too restrictive,so is their tune.

cornemuse 11-02-2015 11:57 AM

"S430 motor rattle under driver door"

= $4,300 motor rattle under driver door

paul roberts 11-02-2015 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lizem (Post 3535161)
I was going to look underneath to make sure nothing obvious was loose.
Is it known that OEM cats are clearly better than aftermarket? I am happy to use them if so.
I have called around and muffler shops seem to charge $180-250 for weld in varieties

I would be careful about using an aftermarket cat. Not always, but a lot of the time they can trigger an "efficiency" fault code. Then you may have to worry about passing emissions, depending on where you live.


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