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Benza 02-22-2003 12:01 PM

VSS Question for a Retrofit of DVD NAV into a '98 ML (no voice prompts)
 
I received the 3 EURO VSS Parts for the DVD NAV Retrofit and I installed them today. The arrow now moves in the correct direction and my position shows up wherever I am, however I still don't have voice prompts and it won't navigate to an address. I get the message in the below PIC. Any idea's whats wrong?
TIA!
Benza
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http://photos.imageevent.com/benza/d...US-PLUGS-2.jpg

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pentoman 02-22-2003 01:10 PM

Looks like no GPS signal - where's the aerial thingy located?

Benza 02-22-2003 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pentoman
Looks like no GPS signal - where's the aerial thingy located?
I do have a GPS signal (it's the green sat. icon located in the upper left of the error message PIC) The arrow showing where I am moves as I move, it's that I just don't have the Voice Prompts and I can't Navigate to a specific address. I was under the impression that once the VSS Parts were installed the Voice would work along with the ability to Navigate to an address.
Any HELP is appreciated!
Thanks!
Benza

Gilly 02-22-2003 09:54 PM

Benza:
The first DVD Nav I installed in an ML gave the same message. I simply did as it said, I drove it around a few miles (on roads which were on the map) and it started to work fine. It looks good, I see you have good satellite signal. Go into the Nav info and see how many sat's your are receiving.

Gilly

Benza 02-23-2003 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gillybenztech
Benza:
The first DVD Nav I installed in an ML gave the same message. I simply did as it said, I drove it around a few miles (on roads which were on the map) and it started to work fine. It looks good, I see you have good satellite signal. Go into the Nav info and see how many sat's your are receiving.

Gilly

I drove around for aprox 15 miles each time 3x
Still no voice prompts and can't navigate to an address.
Someone told me that I have used a 2001 MCS instead of a 2000 MCS and this could be the problem. Supposedly the 2001 MCS needs to be Version coded and there is now way to do that on a 1998 ML:mad:
Looks like I will be looking for another MCS from a 2000 ML!

Gilly 02-23-2003 07:03 AM

I forgot about your internal version coding. The 2000 would need to be version coded too. The one I did my dvd install on was a 2000 as well. I also didn't know it was a 1998. One of the wires is a diagnostic wire, I believe it's yellow. This one joins up with another wire, I believe the diagnosis wire from the SRS. They share a common pin in the diagnostic plug. If these were joined together, i believe the tech could just go into the truck with SDS and the SDS would pick up on this info as though it were a 2000 or newer, at least for MCS. I'd try doing that, maybe that's why it's not working right.

Gilly

myarmar 02-23-2003 10:14 AM

These two wires share pin 13 in the diagnostic plug.
Quote:

Originally posted by gillybenztech
One of the wires is a diagnostic wire, I believe it's yellow. This one joins up with another wire, I believe the diagnosis wire from the SRS. They share a common pin in the diagnostic plug.
Gilly


Benza 02-23-2003 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gillybenztech
I forgot about your internal version coding. The 2000 would need to be version coded too. The one I did my dvd install on was a 2000 as well. I also didn't know it was a 1998. One of the wires is a diagnostic wire, I believe it's yellow. This one joins up with another wire, I believe the diagnosis wire from the SRS. They share a common pin in the diagnostic plug. If these were joined together, i believe the tech could just go into the truck with SDS and the SDS would pick up on this info as though it were a 2000 or newer, at least for MCS. I'd try doing that, maybe that's why it's not working right.

Gilly

From what I understand the 2000 ML's had a few different MCS units. In the first part of the year they didn't need to be version coded. The 2001 has the D2B connector with two pins on the back/bottom of the MCS next to the larger connector with 8+8+7 pins. That last connector has only 7 pins (instead of 10 like in a 2000 MCS) because the CD-changer connects there in 2000 MCS's, and in a 2001 MCS the CD-changer audio, phone, BOSE amplifier and voice recognition all use the D2B ring audio instead.
So I may just try to get a early version of the 2000 ML MCS and try that. If I am able to find one then my 6 disc changer may work again. If that doesn't work then I will deffinatly try what you said (if I can get MB to help me out) My MBD is pretty finicky about working on things such as retrofitting. They have already told me it couldn't be done! I have been doccumenting this Retrofit with detailed PICS and explinations and when I get this to work I will finish it correctly (right now it's a little messy) but if you want to take a look at it here is my web page:

MCS NAV Retrofit into my 1998 ML


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