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Old 12-10-2003, 08:31 AM
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Question Oil Pressure gauge

I've had my '84 380SL for 2 years now and have had very few problems(knock on wood), but there is a problem that keeps nagging at my sense of well being.

When cold the oil pressure gauge pegs at the top like it's suppose to, but when it's warm (the car) the gauge rarely goes below between 2 and 3. Is this normal? I've had nothing but diesels so I don't know what it's suppose to do after warmup. The car has 125K on the clock but due to a timing chain break the PO had all of the valves and guides replaced.

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Old 12-10-2003, 10:18 AM
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It varies from one model to another, but what you are observing is quite normal.

When your oil pressure sensor goes bad, it will either peg to '3' all of the time (including when you just insert the key and turn it) or not function at all.
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Diesel or gas doesn't matter. Normal for at a truly warm MB is between 1 and 2 atmospheres, so staying at 3 is not really normal assuming normal idle speed of around 650 on that car since it is not adjustable. If you are idling much higher, there is a problem in your air management system. Also what weight oil are you using?

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Old 12-10-2003, 04:57 PM
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It's running at about 650rpm which I understand is normal...any guess as to what it might be? I use 5W30


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The oil pressure should sit at three at start up as she warms up it can go down to .6 bar before you should be concerned the lighter the oil the lower the pressure most of the time (synthetics also tend to lower the pressure but only marginally). At park running and engine warm .6 to three is fine as long as it goes straight to 3 on acceleration. Hope this helps. 5w30 is a light oil i would use 10w 40 as a minimum unless you live in the very cold climates. Do not mean to get an oil discussion going. Personally I like mobil15w50 as it covers my area's temps very well. A oil sensor can give wierd readings so that is a good place to start if you are concerned. My 560 sits at 2 bar in idle warmed up.
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I'll concur with Martin on his complete post. May be a funky gauge. I also would recommend heavier oil. I run 20-50 in all my gas and diesel rigs here in the S.F. bay area. It is amazing that your reading is 2 to 3 with oil that light. If you shift to heavier oil it will probably exacerbate the problem. Check your owner's manual (you know that little book in the glove compartment that is still in mint condition) to see what is recommended for your climate.

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I just checked today it is 2.3 in P idle and 2 in D idle usin Mobil 1 15w50
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Warm engine in my SDL shows 3 bar at highway speeds and 1.8 bar at 630 RPM idle. This using 15w-40 Rotella (dino) oil. Oil changed every 3000 miles. Engine uses maybe 1/3 quart between oil changes and has used this amount since new.
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I have a 1992 300SEL (W140). The oil guage works funny too. It fluctuates a lot during idle eventhough the engine's rpm is very stable. At idle, the rpm stays just a little above 500. Could this be linked to a bad oil sensor or a bad guage? I will be taking it in for repair. Someone stole my badge on the hood and the engine won't start without manually applying the throttle pedal. But once it starts it is very smooth except for the oil pressure guage.

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Lok,

More than likely it is the sending unit. MB oil pressure gauges used to be bullet proof, but the quality went down in the mechanical guages to where the unit in just about every 123 chassis leaked oil. Now the electrical units are becoming par with the junk made for Detroit Iron.

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