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pesuazo 01-01-2004 09:49 PM

Help me find this positive voltage distribution point
 
Hi all:
I have lost the B+ voltage for the central locking system. (Fuse is OK). The electrical diagram shows the central point for B+ distribution as X48F. The legend states it is located @ the right rear door sill area. I have taken just about everything in the area out, but cannot find this distribution point. The problem must be wire related, since the other circuits running of the same the fuse are OK.
I tried to chase the + wires, but they go into a channel under the passenger side seat (impossible to get hand in there).
Does anyone know where this distribution point is?

PS. All grounds tested and good.

stevebfl 01-01-2004 10:12 PM

We have had the problem at least once. I wasn't the one who found it but I think we removed the seats and some carpeting. The main reason I am replying is that the question has come up before and the point was found. I don't remember who it was but you may find it in the archives. He gave a good description.

stevebfl 01-01-2004 10:22 PM

I could swear that there was a final answer but here is one thread: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=17563&highlight=central+locking+power

You might use this thread to continue the search. There may be a separate "fix" post.

myarmar 01-01-2004 10:40 PM

The fix is here
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=17653

pesuazo 01-01-2004 11:06 PM

Well, now I know what awaits tomorrow:
Remove the passenger's side seat, carpet, and get to that tunnel.

I did not use the right terms on my previous search.

I can never stop mentioning how valuable this forum, and the members in it are.

Thanks again.

PS. I will follow up with what I find tomorrow

pesuazo 01-02-2004 01:34 PM

Mission accomplished.
5 wires (B+) were connected in a pigtail, which was very corroded (the green dusty stuff). I touched the pigtail and all wires just fell off from it.
I stripped them, joined them together and pigtailed them again, this time I used a special crimp from my toolbox.

Central locking system works like a charm now.

I had to remove the passenger's side seat and lift the carpet. I took some pictures which will be posted soon.

pesuazo 01-02-2004 02:09 PM

Some pictures:

pesuazo 01-02-2004 02:10 PM

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This has happened to me before, sometimes the pictures do not upload.:(

pesuazo 01-02-2004 02:21 PM

Test

pesuazo 01-02-2004 10:06 PM

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Location of wires, as reference use the red release for rear seat cushion:

pesuazo 01-02-2004 10:10 PM

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And here is the inside of the pigtail, the resolution sucks, but the green inside is obvious:

87-300E_in_NC 01-02-2004 10:25 PM

Cool Beans
 
That's good news! Glad you found that issue....maybe I should check mine while my back seat is still loose :)

pesuazo 01-02-2004 10:32 PM

87-300E_in_NC,
Thanks again for allowing me to test my vacuum pump in your car.
:)
Your system is working fine, but since the seat is off, I would check it.
Right now my back is killing me.

Robertwav1 02-23-2004 07:35 AM

Well....thanks for the pictures....having the same problems. Will check that B+ connection this week. Couldn't get the locks to cycle yesterday....this morning they worked. Definately a bad connection somewhere. I thought the pump had died.

CraigInGA 10-02-2016 03:30 PM

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Reviving this old thread to post some additional pictures and information as I just went through this job myself.

According to the wiring diagrams, I think these are the Z splices referenced in the "Electric Wiring Diagrams of Central Locking Systems" file and/or the X48F + Z82/6 splices documented in the "Central Locking System 146/1" diagram that shows power, signaling and phonemic circuits.

As previously documented, it is located under the floor ~12 inches in front of the rear right seat. If you aren't getting full voltage to the door lock pump, check the 3 Z splices. My problem was with the Red/White splice but since i was there I went ahead and redid the two ground splices as well.

To get the carpet out of the way:
1. Remove the right rear seat bottom (via the red lever) and the plastic bits that surround the seat mount posts
2. Move the front seat as far forward as possible
3. Remove the plastic door sill plate
4. Unbolt the rear sear belt latch (to get the carpet further out of the way)
5. Unbolt the front seat belt from the floor (this makes it easier to complete the next step and it also allows you to pull the carpet back a bit more.)
6. Remove the B pillar trim that meets the carpet

When I pulled the carpet back there was moisture left over from a sunroof drain tube leak I fixed last month. The drain tube shrunk and pulled back into the A pillar. This causes the sunroof to drain right into the floor of the car.

These pictures were taken after I opened up the wiring channel and removed the old electrical tape that was wrapped around all three splices.


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