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Old 12-24-2003, 01:22 AM
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Messerschmit upside down V12 in Star magazines

Hey,

Can any of you guys scan the magazine article? My friend needs a picture of the motor to paint a model.

edit: post 1700
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1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 12-24-2003, 02:01 AM
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Hello Omegabenz!

Do a search on Google about the "DB 603" or the "DB 605".
This will provide you with tons of information. These engines were entirely satin gloss black. Only the injection pump and the main fuel pump are in aluminum color as some small parts.
Do yourself a pleassure with this search : it is realy a fascinating engine of an incredible original construction and beauty !!

Danny
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Old 12-24-2003, 11:25 AM
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Thank you, I will look into it.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-26-2003, 01:23 AM
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I searched google, but I didn't find very good information. Do you have a scan of the star magazine a few months back?

Or maybe a picture of the engine in detail.

Thanks again,
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-30-2003, 06:34 AM
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Hello again Omegabenz !

I remember I found the article of the Star magazine by Google.
It was on an American website. I printed it out and translated it in Dutch for my mechanic. He is very interested and if we can lay hands on one ( I know of at least one DB 605-A in Belgium ) , we will try to overhaul it and make it running (NOT airworthy !) again.
I gave the printout to him so as soon I'll be seeing him, I'll check out the website and mail you the address.
These are some sites with pictures of the DB 605/603/601 engines:

http://home.t-online.de/home/flugzeugwartung.bantle/bantle2.htm
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/luftcambg_2.htm
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bf109detailbg_1.htm
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1997/04/stuff_eng_detail_bf109g.htm
http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/db605.htm
http://www.bf109.com/engine.html

I hope this will help you out !

Danny
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Old 12-30-2003, 01:32 PM
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Beautiful man. My mechanic too is really the one that wanted the information. But anything he wants done on computers, I do it for him. Ill pass this info along. Do you have a scan of the Star article or which one it's in? He has the Star, just he doesnt know which one it is.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-31-2003, 02:11 AM
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Omegabenz,

I'll contact my mechanic today if he isn't on holyday.
Than I'll let you know the site where I found it.
Happy newyear anyway!

Danny
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Old 01-05-2004, 08:17 AM
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Hello Omegabenz,

Received my CD with the sound of that inverted V 12 (ordered in the US). I can recommand it to your mechanic to.
The least I can say is it's very impressive...to me as a former aircraft mechanic for 25 years. I am sure my mechanic will be impressed to !
Hope to see him this evening for that site with "The Star" article.
I'll let you know...

Danny
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Old 01-05-2004, 01:07 PM
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Cool, Thanks.

Maybe you can make a sound clip of that sound so I can hear too.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:37 AM
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Hello again, Omegabenz,

Try this site :

http://www.bf109.com/sounds.html

A warning would be on it's place overhere : listening to this sound is very
intoxicating but fortunately NOT harmfull!

Danny
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:54 AM
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Awesome, Ill show it to my friend tomorrow.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:56 AM
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At last, omegabenz,

Got a long talk with my friend and mechanic yesterday.
I even remembered to ask him about the Star Magazine article as I promised you. So here is the website where I read the entire article.
The other sites will show you some realy good pictures from the engine in original colors. That was original question, isn't it ?
The last site does the same but more : you'll see the engine we hope to lay hands on for the "overhaul" and hope to make it running again ! I can see this engine every day if I want to. So if it's necessary, I can take pictures of details and mail them to you if you want to. Just let me know...

http://www.centennialjournal.com/articlesview.php?ID=295
http://www.shanaberger.com/images/Bf109_3.jpg
http://www.avions-de-legende.com/moteurs/img/DB-605.jpg
http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com

Your mechanic will be pleased!
Have fun!

Danny
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Old 01-09-2004, 02:04 AM
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Perfect, he will be so excited, thanks!!!!
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 01-09-2004, 04:19 AM
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Omegabenz,

This link will lead you straight to the pictures of the DB on that site.
Otherwise they are hard to find !

http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/db605/db605.htm

Danny
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