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Originally Posted by greasybenz
Im not sure what SUV's your talking about or cars. no gasser sedan i know of gets 40-50mpg. The best mpg gasser thats not a hybrid is a honda civic that gets 35mpg hwy when you baby it. The hybrid model doesnt do much better in real world driving either only 5mpg more WOW extra $2K for an extra 5mpg.
As for SUV's unless your talking about a ford escape or even the hybrid they dont do that well either. Real world driving is what you have to look at not whatever EPA says since they test at 55mph.
Only new sedan that will reach the 40-50mpg range is a 06 VW jetta TDI. And yes in REAL WORLD driving. EPA states 33/44mpg and as you break the engines in they go way above that. Older VE TDI's can go as high as 60mpg.
No gasser SUV or car can ever reach what a newer technoloy diesel can. and shoot no gasser can out run a new technology diesel in performance either.
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FYI My Gasser S320 is getting 23.8 mpg in mixed driving pretty good since its one of the biggest S class cars made. My 300SD does not get anywhere near 30mpg and I would never expect it to because its over 24 years old.
Here are some interesting MPG ratings
MINI Cooper 28/36
Toyota Corolla 32/41
Honda Civic 30/40
VW Golf 30/40
All of those are gas powered cars. Its amazing what new technology can do. While im a big fan of the OM-617 engine its not as fuel efficent as you would think. I was rather pleasantly surprised with my S320 as it lists 24mpg highway. I never expected to get anywhere near that figure but with the new computer controlled engine management systems they do better than you would think. Now the "Hypebrids" are another story entirely. I cant wait until the fleet of hypebrids starts to age and those outrageously expensive dealer only parts suck up any fuel savings for the people who are enviromentally hip.