at Hatch is obviously one of the most desirable out there. But $60 +k?! Sorry, guys, these are still 10 year old cars. If I'm going to invest that kind of money... well, no need in starting that thread. I think these are fabulous cars in the $20 and 30k range, but once they start to hit $40k, you've got to stop and think. If it's your desire to own it the rest of your life, then I'm sure it's fine. If not, I don't see how you could ever climb out. Just a thought. Good hunting.