Originally Posted by bustedbenz

In terms of speed, torque... pretty much driveability... I'm willing to concede the point.

But my main focus is in the person who can only afford to buy one car every fifteen or twenty years or so. In that respect, I'm going with the petroleum fueled diesel because no new cars, diesel or otherwise, are truly being made to last that long. Honestly... with proper maintenance (which I can do myself on the simpler engine) - I'm betting that my already-21-year-old SDL - even with all its problems, will still be on the road if I don't wreck it after at least SOME of these new production hybrids are worn out.