We either stay in, and finish what the enemy said we don't have the fortitude to do. Or we get out and repeat the Nam experience. When are we finished? When the Iraqis all together cry uncle. They will beg us to leave, but they will have stopped the sectarian killing and built up their government, police and security to manage themselves without falling apart.

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