years ago in my dads shop we had an early 70's buick electra in it had those wheel covers that looked like spoked chrome wheels.well my dad had it on the hoist and started taking the lug nuts off.man he hammered on those things,said my god whos the bufoon that tightened these on.thats when i told him to take the wheel cover off.what got me was he didn't break any of those fake nuts off.