I didn't mean to start any trouble so you guys shake hands and be friends! I would like to pose another question though. How many owners take their cars back to dealers for repair once the warranty expires? I would say not the majority. The existence of shops like MB Autowerks should be a testiment to that. I worked in a Ford dealership once and everybody in town would fix a car cheaper than us. But even back then, it was almost impossible for a mechanic to beat the flat rate. They only gave you six hours to rebuild an entire engine!! So where did the money go? The mechanics sure as heck didn't get it.