Funola that would give you my only key, I'll pass though thannks for the offer!

rcounts, that is a very good point, I will see what I can do about getting a key made. The "double security" key poses problems as not every shop can copy them with their equipment...I'll call around. I'm pretty sure the key is all the way in, butt no way to completely know and its worth a shot before I take the dremel to it. Thanks guys!

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Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth