Yes, the subject has been beaten into complete oblivion here on mshop for a number of years. Everyone knows, however, that if you kick a dead horse enough, it might climb back up on all four feet.

Just being honest, somehow this one strikes a chord with me. I have spent my entire life getting dirty working on cars and other forms of wheeled conveyence. So, somehow, I find it difficult to walk in someones shoes who is afraid to do the same. I also find it difficult to identify with a man using hand lotion.

"Mr. Bible, you are charged with inciting debate regarding oil change method. How do you plead?"

Guilty as charged your honor!