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Originally Posted by Local2ED
If your off this weekend, thank a union member
If you have holidays off, thank a union member
If your company offers insurance and pension, thank a union member
If you had the slightest clue what you were talking all you have to do is look at the working class before unions, circa early 1900's.
Would'nt be much of a middle class would it?
Do you really believe unions hurt Detroit or upper management?
Lot off whiners the don't know anything about unions, never been in one, but because their jealous, now their experts.
I would hate to see this country without union representation
Believe me when I tell you all the stupid stories about sleeping on the job, can't get fired. or slow down, don't do such a good are nonsense.
I have been in a union almost 30 years and only one rules applys, IF THE COMPANY'S NOT MAKING MONEY NEITHER WILL YOU.
And your welcome.
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I'm self employed, so I have whatever time off/benefits that I want to pay for; I'm doing just fine without a union, but thanks anyway.
I've spent enough years working with owners of large unionized construction projects to know a little about how unions work (actually don't work) on a day by day basis. I've dealt with enough of their nonsense (sabotage, threats, slowdowns, bogus safety complaints, etc.) and crossed enough silly picket lines while trying to help get jobs completed to have earned an opinion. My opinion is that they have outlived their usefulness and are now hampering the ability of the U.S. to compete.
I do agree that they had a function 100 years ago. Today, it's hard to tell whether the workers are getting screwed more by management or their own unions (probably both). Regardless of my opinion, they are becoming increasingly irrelevant. I'm sure you know that U.S. union membership has declined from about 20% to about 12% over the last 20 years, at this point even the democrats (outside the rust belt) don't listen to them anymore. They will essentially be gone in another 20 years, then you will get to "see this country without union representation."
Regarding Detroit, I think that incompetent management and the UAW can share the blame. Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight; I'm not moving to Detroit and I'm certainly never going to buy a domestic car.