Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

So, unbeknownst to me, the light does change, but the DB's don't stop...........they continue to make their right turn, without stopping for the now red light............so, I'm not aware of the change...........until the traffic on the crossing road takes off and tries to avoid me by going in front of me...........I'm stuck in a very bad place in the middle of the intersection..............and the DB's will not wait.