Originally Posted by dropnosky

so question, is there a reason why you would prefer a wagon over a minivan?

I know this is an evil statement on the diesel discussion, but if the goal is a family vehicle, and the only reason you were going diesel was reliability or economy, there are a gajillion newer family vehicles that get similar economy as the older diesels, or just a little bit less, while being just as or more reliable and cheaper to maintain.

Plenty of auto manufacturers made excellent minivans that handle just as well or better than the old MBs, drive better, hold 7 passengers, and hold more cargo.

Just an option to consider while you consider family needs for the future. Im going to go through this same discussion in the next year or so, so its been on my mind.