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Old 12-24-2012, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel911 View Post
I understand that you don't understand People who like Guns and participate in Gun Sports label you as an Antigun Nut.
Why have you decided that someone like Myself are others are Gun Nuts; implying insanity.

I can speculate that the so called Gun Nuts can spout all sorts of figures and technical data is that they have a complete interest in their Sport.
Not unlike a lot of Sports Fans do in Base Ball or even Mercedes.
I bet there is a bunch of Gun Lover type Forums that are similar in content to this one with the exception of the Subject Matter.

Old Argument does not equal Invalid Argument.

As far as the "Drug Culture" (no news Media) goes I know more about that then I want to. 2 of the People who where My past Friends (Weed and Pill users when I met them) moved on to Heroin.

The Man Mugged an Old Lady for Drug Money and went to Jail for that. Likely for the rest of his Life as He had previous convictions.
The Women became a Prostitute and also went to Jail for that and later was back on the Streets.

One of My X Girl Friends died of a Heart Attack duing here use of Amphetamines.

One of Her Girl Friends that I knew also died in a Similar Fashion.

This is over 35 years ago but I Myself was one the armed Persons at the buying of some Weed. I was young and Dumb for doing that but that was the first and last time and I walked away from the whole mess.

From what you said I gather that you don't believe illegal drug use of any sort causes any Violence, crime or has altered society in any way. Drug users are just a bunch of "Mellow Folks".

It is those evil law abiding Gun Owners with their detailed technical knowledge that are the threat.

You will know if you are part of the "Drug Culture" pretty much the same way you would know if you are part of a "Base Ball" culture. Almost all of your Friends will be Drug uses, they spend a lot of their time doing things to aquire or use Drugs.
You might here a comment like I did when I was in the Army where one of the Guys noticed and commented that that that when the talked about having fun the sentance saterted off with "I was all F***** Up and******".
Ya the only time they had fun what when the were High.
If you can accept the Drug Stuff from above just try to think of the Law Abiding "Gun Nuts" as a Mellow Bunch of Guys and Gals getting high when the Shoot their Guns.
I entirely understand people who like guns, because I am one of them.
What I don't understand is people claiming that they are going to use POS weapons like the bushmaster AR-15 copycat for hunting.... Get real.

I have not intentionally labeled you a gun nut. I do believe that you are clinging to outdated, no longer relevant arguments in presenting your side of the debate.

As for the drug culture, you seem to be lumping casual weed smokers in with speed freaks, junkies and pill heads. That's why I mentioned that our definitions are not the same. I do not consider weed a drug.
Certainly with it's years as an illegal substance, it has been trafficked by real criminals (sounds like you were one of those, as was I, although I never carried any weapons in my efforts of distribution).

Absolutely never claimed this -
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Originally Posted by Diesel911 View Post
....you don't believe illegal drug use of any sort causes any Violence, crime or has altered society in any way. Drug users are just a bunch of "Mellow Folks".
Illegal drug use causes an enormous amount of crime, and an especially high amount of gun related crime. However, is it the drugs causing the crime, or the fact that they are artificially inflated in price because they are illegal?

Again, never stated anything about legal gun owners being evil in any way.
But their arguments are outdated, narrow minded and often confrontational.
These are not tactics that are going to aid the gun owners in the gun control showdown.

What's a redneck's last words???

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