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Originally Posted by JB3
I said "several hundred years before he was made into a religious figure of extreme importance"
If you are going to quote me, get the whole thing.
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I proved you wrong.
Now you should apologize or challenge the evidence. Your current weaseling isn't doing your position any good.
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I didn't say that he wasn't important to contemporary followers, but id put him at a religious figure of extreme importance the day the Romans adopted christianity as the state religion, which was 313 AD, centuries after his death.
Before that it was a growing religion on par with a lot of other belief systems.
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Oh man...
- The "Romans" (or the Roman Empire) did not adopt Christianity as a state religion in 313 AD. In 313 AD Christianity became a legitimate religion, prior to that point it was illegal to be a Christian. Illegal because every person in the empire was obligated not only to pay tax to Caesar but to offer to him as a living deity. Jews also rejected this but the Roman Emperor gave them an exception to the rule, until 313 AD Christians were not given such an exemption. Up til the Peace of the Church in 313 AD (and more vigorously just prior to that point) Christians were arrested, their property seized and often they were just executed. Constantine (the emperor responsible for the Peace of the Church) was baptized by an Arian bishop on his death bed. No Christian today would consider Arians to be Christians as they deny the deity of Christ. Arius himself was declared a heretic and banned by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
- Christianity didn't become a "state religion" of the Roman Empire until 380 AD by the Edict of Thessalonica.
- Actually the population of the Christian movement exploded pretty much after the first decade of it's existence. By the 4th century it was almost the dominant religion of the Roman empire, even if it was still illegal
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The problem here is for you, he was always important, but for a while christians were not a major religion, took a while to build momentum. Also, you actually haven't presented any evidence, just anecdotal statements made by men. The next thing out of your mouth should be some clarification of that evidence.
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You've got to be kidding. Do you even know how a debate works?
You've made the claims it is therefore your job to provide the evidence. I provide the counter evidence.
And slapping the term "anecdotal" on something doesn't make it any less historical nor accurate. I've provided substance you've provided opinion and inaccurate statements about history.