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Originally Posted by kerry
It is attention getting but I don't think that's it's conscious or unconscious motivation.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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I also agree with JB3 that Larry doesn't actually care about addicts, their families and the effects on society.
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Larry agreed with one of my comments (above) that the effects of drug use may have negative influences on others. That may not suggest personal care but rather concern for the influence of one upon the other; so the evidence doesn't support your conclusion.
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I think there's only one thing that Larry cares about--compulsory obedience. It's the central moral system of patriarchy and is evidenced in the great monotheisms of patriarchy. Obey or be crushed.
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He has stated repeatedly that he likes to follow the (US) law, when the law agrees with his ideological views. iirc, he was in opposition to laws granting members of the lgbt community greater rights. I acknowledge your earlier point about so-called moral law (a slippery topic), and not necessarily US law, but the detail is, the views are not immutable, and that would suggest he doesn't agree with compulsory obedience in the literal sense. He may agree to degrees in the sense that serves his own values. If true, he would be like everyone else, right?
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These aren't actually moral systems, they're power systems and what they serve to produce is centralized patriarchal power. The patriarch justifies his power by claiming to obey the ultimate invisible patriarch, conferring the authority necessary for social control. So, I'd say Larry is not seeking attention but power. It just appears as attention seeking in the forum.
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This is a kind of hair splitting. I could trace a line of logic that was first objectified by Schopenhauer, continued through Nietzsche, Freud, Adler and others, and most recently was expressed by Manslow in his (Manslow's) hierarchy of needs in the name of “Esteem.” This would agree in part, with a sense of allegiance to something greater (your patriarchal power), but more broadly the effect suggests only the desire to seek attention for self-serving goals.
Who knows, perhaps his dad believed in “correct” actions, whatever those were perceived to be, with punishment by way of a leather belt if one of his dad’s kids did live up to dad's perceptions. There are some who would act out all their life to avoid a sense of "the belt" after some experiences, i guess...
I dunno. You suggest he seeks power through attention seeking means, and i suggest he seeks attention for self-fulfillment. Anywho, without going into more boring detail, I guess you say potato….
BTW I do like the idea of the influence of perceived patriarchal power on one’s actions and goals, and acknowledge that does happen. Some never seek to draw their own conclusions but rather act out on handed down wisdom throughout life, but have not concluded that’s the case here. There is evidence to support that theory....